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silent it comes right over our head it's

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in the clearing he turned over to my

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father and held his hand and he looked

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hello everyone and welcome to the show

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well things got a little discombobulated

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with this show in particular as story

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Musgrave is coming on as our guest but

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he has a very short window that he can

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be with us so what we're gonna have to

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do is we're gonna have to talk with him

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first and then I will put the news in

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which was pre-recorded with Alejandro

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Rojas somewhere in the middle of the

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from Australia right after story

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Musgrave so it'll go like this first of

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all we will have story Musgrave the

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Space Shuttle astronaut will be on the

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news will be on after that and then

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after that we'll have Peter Slattery

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and he'll be on for our one the rest of

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the our one and our two thanks a lot and

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right here is story Musgrave story

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you're out in California and berbay yeah

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I'm at work right now in Burbank

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California well you know I was reading

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your bio and you have a lot of things

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going on you want to talk a little bit

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about your I mean Europe you're a busy

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you're retired but you're not retired

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your busiest act no well I never retired

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no it's not a word I use you retired as

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an astronaut maybe no I don't I left so

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ok today I'm a professor of design in

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our Center College for design and

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working

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right now in a company called applied

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minds I saw were innovators rapid

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prototyper x' you know it meant a future

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for other companies not a production

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company in Sydney a landscaping company

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in Orlando

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I got a eight-year-old daughter Wow yeah

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she's the light of my life I was my

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oldest child is 55 hey so I need to say

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so far mark yeah that's great

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that's great hey so you are one of the

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reasons you're on the show is you're

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coming up at contact in the desert yes

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later on so yes

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what are your chops are actually going

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to be at that at that yeah I think uh of

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course a bunch of panels and I don't

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think the most important thing and I

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have done lots of uh earlier ones I like

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to move on you know it's I think the

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most important thing I can do is is talk

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about my visual observations I talk

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about I've had the privilege of being in

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airplanes eighteen thousand hours and

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six base lines and the privilege of the

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opportunities to see things and to

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interpret things and to develop skills

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skills for being an observer both what's

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there and what could be there and what

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it's going to look like and what

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different objects might look like so I'm

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going to talk about all that so I have

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like a phrase say I have a massive

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experience maybe anyone in history of

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deploying satellites and see how when

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they when they disappear you know over

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the horizon so to speak and what do they

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look like so how do you see other flying

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spacecraft of which I said lightest one

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have they'd use a huge experience in

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recovering satellites of approaching a

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satellite you know in Mission Control I

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had 25 missions in Mission Control so I

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love those folks and go curious and him

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about things and so they always point

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out objects have that are going by and

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they're very very good about that in

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other words

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now we never let another sad might come

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within 30 miles of this SSO room sort of

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the resolution of the radar but there

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will always point things out to me when

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they're going by and they'll tell me in

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a very precise way you know it's a

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looking at the back we know it's 20

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degrees left to tell and 30 degrees

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above the tail then I can spot that

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thing and so I'll be able to spot that

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thing and I'll see it down by well so

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it's things it's things like that you

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know and then our great challenges first

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line outside challenges first right when

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you are manufacturing a huge spacecraft

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like at this x and that's bolts washers

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and even tools fall behind panels and

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fall behind walls and you've got no way

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to get them out they just sit there

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that's where they are

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hmm what the Shake Rattle role of of a

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launch just rattles them loose you see

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and then you shut down and then you pop

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right into you you looked right into 0j

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so G everything will get out of the

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cavity it's in a giving example you've

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got a gallon milk container you got a

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girl milk container and you put a tiny

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screw in it well on orbit you can watch

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that screw bounce all over and

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eventually it's going to bounce for the

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homeless even though the holes not that

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big it will get out of its closet so you

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can't contain anything if the hole out

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of the container you know it's big

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enough to mount object it's going to

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come out so I got challenges first light

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and so challenge you want to all the

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manufacturer when I open the payload bay

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doors it's like home people coming out

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I got wrenches it's not just nothing

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boss I got ranges so I got the whole

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stuff coming out okay well it comes out

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now and so you can study you can study

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those objects as they move away from you

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you can study things like to orbital

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mechanics you can say things like if no

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other object touches that object it's

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going to move straight away from you and

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you'll learn to look at its velocity you

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see you see its current velocity you

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know it came from you

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because if you simply if you extrapolate

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that its current belong

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because you know Newton's second it's

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going to maintain that exact direction

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till touch my son mills mmm and so you

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can see you left it but anyway and it's

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are deploying satellites and looking

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into debris the daily and so it's that

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totality of things and it's looking at

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things in other orbits and seeing how

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they have to behave if you're in a

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different orbit and I'm talking only

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about a few hundred feet if you got some

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a few hundred feet away it's not got the

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same orbital mechanics you guys it's not

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going to stay with you it can't stay

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with you Wow unless it's in a totally

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active unless it's continuously firing

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its rocket that's just orbital mechanics

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so anyway Martin you know what I got to

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offer them it's really the night scene

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but what I got to offer them is the only

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time they're gonna see anything is that

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night yeah I have got Trevor to see

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things today you can't see things in a

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day when you really see stuff it's when

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you were in the dark and the abject your

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local force in the Sun and it is a

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bright star right there and I've spent

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days and days tracking two satellites my

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last mission we put out two satellites

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sixteen days so it's they were just

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sitting out there with us in the same

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Worman anyway it's stuff like that

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it's to give people because I've had the

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privilege of a huge amount of airplane

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flight at altitude that's forty thousand

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above and I've had a huge number of you

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know experience in space line is what

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are things look like how do they behave

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what have you seen what does it mean how

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do you interpret it and how are you

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going to see other stuff other stuff

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that has a calm yet maybe okay so I

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think that's the main thing my

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experience of being in those places and

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how you get to be our great observer how

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do you think about ahead of time how do

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your researching you know so that you

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it's a privilege to be there and doggone

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it you represent humanity and you've got

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to be the best observer possible so I

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think that's what I'm gonna give them

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well I consider that any astronaut would

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have to be a very good observer and I'm

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wondering if um if they don't work on it

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though they don't work

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No and they don't turn all the lights

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off either they do a lot of don't turn

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all the lights off to see the stars and

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the planets and everything else and so

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no there's a huge range this astronauts

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got the huge range the same as they

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other people some do most in fact I

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don't know of anyone else we made a

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science of what you can see you got to

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do work you have to do your homework

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between flights that's all you have to

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work on it it doesn't just come you

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don't just jump up there and get in the

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window and see stuff don't work that way

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I had a conversation with Alan bean oh I

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don't know maybe three or four years ago

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is actually I did a show with him I also

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have another podcast on art and antiques

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and I did a show with him on his artwork

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and but basically I asked him I said you

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know what do you say to these people

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that say that no one ever really landed

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on the moon and he he kind of chuckled

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and he said you know you can't convince

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those people any different so he doesn't

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even bother trying you know but he knows

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he was there and it is a belief system

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Sordo but you know you have to be sort

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of evident evidence-based person it it's

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not fair I'm not to look at the evidence

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and just say we didn't a powerful

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telescope can see our spacecraft there

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that's you can see you can see the

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landing part of the space map that we

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launched there a then even more powerful

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telescope is going to be able to see the

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backpacks in the suits we might fear and

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the laser reflector you want to fire a

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laser at the moon it will come back at

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you and a a 500-dollar direction finder

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radio it can point at it can point at

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the radio signals coming from the moon

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when we were talking there that's $500

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little point at the moment that's where

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that signal came from and the Russians

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the Russians are not gonna let us say we

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went there when we didn't anyway there's

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a lot of evidence based stuff that we

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were there right right now it's hard to

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fake it's hard to take one v g2 and it's

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hard to take that golf ball away forever

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I can't even imagine what it was like

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to be out in space I mean is it and to

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look down you know I mean how accurate

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accurate did you see the movie gravity

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I'm gonna ask you first of all and I

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just wonder what you thought the first

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part of that accuracy was well I don't

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expect uh I don't expect a movie to be

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accurate in the drama it's a it's a film

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so you don't expect it to be accurate it

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wasn't but then I think it had a problem

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with being a great film hmm so I'm you

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know I'm a film kind of person I wasn't

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crazy about gravity as a film but I

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don't go in and judge a film based on it

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it's reality

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course you know that's not what a film

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is if it was supposed to be a great

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story right I was a little disappointed

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in the story it blows everything up the

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theme is we're going to keep blowing it

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up and see if we survive that's not

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enough thing hmm we keep blowing it up

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and see if we survive but there's a

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whole bunch of course it's totally

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inaccurate you're not going to survive

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those kind of hits right

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but anyway it's it's not supposed to be

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accurate it's a film okay if it wants to

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be if it wants to be a campy alright and

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now I'm gonna ask you I haven't really

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been able to find I mean I saw a couple

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things online on some forums but what is

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your thoughts about UFOs in general what

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is suicide today and that is that this

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trillions of life forms out there this

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trains our planet to have life and so

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the universe is so massively big it is

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it is big beyond the imagination

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wherever you wherever you shine help

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away we look at Hubble even in dark sky

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it's another thousand galaxies they can

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under being stars and ichigaya my

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goodness you're talking about every

305
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single picture how what takes got five

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tree and stars and the place is

307
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absolutely huge and the whole bunch of

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planets conducive to life and the carbon

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carbon we're carbon life wood away

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carbon hooks to itself that's what makes

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life but we probably got we're still

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finding species we probably got six

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million species on this earth alone that

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is power and so whether life evolved

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here we think we can

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it started from all the commonalities

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between all living forms life life

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started here about 4 billion years ago

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it could have come from somewhere else

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you know we don't have that answer it

321
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could have written in on a meteorite

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something like ad it could have written

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in or it formed in the soup but we don't

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know that but my goodness the power of

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life to arise and the power of life to

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travel even on you know me to write to

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that kind of stuff so life is

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unbelievably powerful and it's trillions

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of planets that could support life so I

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think out there and life is everywhere

331
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out there in fact I think there's

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billions that are doing star travel ok

333
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planning if a planet gets his stuff

334
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together now so on this plan here we've

335
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been doing technology for however long

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300 years only if a planet got its life

337
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together it could be doing that

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technology for millions of years and so

339
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it could achieve it could achieve star

340
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travel so I think a know how universe is

341
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heck there's hundreds of millions of

342
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planets did also do it star travel ok

343
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that's a sign on the other side for me

344
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and it's very important for me I have no

345
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evidence and that's my personal evidence

346
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I have no personal observation or

347
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evidence brought to me this place we

348
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have been visited here but no money I

349
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don't say we have not that's different

350
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I've spoken to people have been abducted

351
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that's right and I did not tell them

352
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they were not abducted I was not happy

353
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with her mouth what evidence they

354
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brought to me I was not happy with a

355
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number of details that gave me the

356
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observations that doesn't matter I don't

357
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tell them they were not because I was

358
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not there and I do not say we have not

359
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been visited because I have not been

360
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there to make all observations other

361
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people have all I say that his story

362
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Musgrave the observation that I have

363
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made in evidence brought to me I do not

364
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have evidence satisfactory to me to say

365
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we have been visited so it's two things

366
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it's everywhere out there he isn't

367
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trains and people don't start travel but

368
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for me the little story Musgrave and the

369
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narrow experiences that I've had I don't

370
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have any evidence we've been visited

371
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here not to say it hasn't happened um do

372
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you mind I'm gonna play a quick clip

373
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I had a UFO debate with dr. Seth Shostak

374
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from the SETI end up he mentions your

375
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name and I'd like to play this quick

376
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clip and then I'd like to have your

377
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opinion after it it's less than a minute

378
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so I'm gonna play it right now okay so

379
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you wouldn't consider witnesses so many

380
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witnesses say for instance astronaut

381
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Gordon Cooper and former governor Fife

382
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Symington and people like that what

383
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would you say about them being as

384
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observers oh well I don't think that

385
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they're professional observers I mean

386
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it's it's not that I'm impugning their

387
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integrity I've talked with a lot of the

388
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astronauts Edgar Mitchell and Gene

389
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Cernan and all these guys you know and

390
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if you talk to them about these things

391
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to begin with usually it's secondhand

392
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they haven't actually seen these things

393
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themselves they heard somebody else

394
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talking about it but even if they have

395
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seen them themselves you know story

396
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Musgrave thought he heard the aliens and

397
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the muffin fans in the in the space

398
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shuttle okay III don't think he's lying

399
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I don't think he's making something up

400
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but I don't consider that very good

401
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evidence and in fact anybody who's in

402
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:52,070
forensics will tell you that witness

403
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testimony is about that porous kind of

404
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evidence there is particularly in

405
00:17:02,580 --> 00:16:59,150
science so I just read on that clip and

406
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what do you have to say to his comment

407
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well I don't know where he's getting it

408
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from I certainly didn't hear any aliens

409
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and the fans so I don't know where

410
00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:13,030
that's coming from

411
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well I did comment on yes the fans the

412
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particular fans caused a reverberation

413
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in the hearing system in me

414
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and it kind of kicked off some music in

415
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other words for me the fans have got a

416
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rhythm and a beat to them which

417
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represents music and so it stimulates in

418
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me kind of a musical sensation not just

419
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a pure hum of a fan so somehow he

420
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interpreted that

421
00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:49,010
it's not a very scientific thing for him

422
00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:52,190
to do well no he that was that noise

423
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I love sense and we have a great time

424
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together but he may have read what

425
00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:01,100
somebody else so when you make comments

426
00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:04,520
and they get past done tribally from one

427
00:18:12,790 --> 00:18:07,160
person to another and the story can

428
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:12,800
change right yeah yeah but so it's very

429
00:18:18,790 --> 00:18:15,890
interesting and it's very beautiful you

430
00:18:22,210 --> 00:18:18,800
know what happens when the fans the fans

431
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start reverberating and they create this

432
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rhythmic kind of music in your ear it's

433
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related it's like music and it's

434
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beautiful

435
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mm-hmm Wow Wow

436
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I mean just the thing I always think

437
00:18:39,790 --> 00:18:37,790
about how wonderful it must be to be out

438
00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:39,800
in space and looking down at the earth I

439
00:18:47,980 --> 00:18:43,400
mean that is beyond words isn't it it

440
00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:47,990
must be no like okay what it's not

441
00:18:52,210 --> 00:18:50,840
beyond words but it's gorgeous I mean

442
00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:52,220
it's beautiful in all kinds of different

443
00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:57,110
ways all kinds of different ways hmm so

444
00:19:01,030 --> 00:18:59,210
the aurora is the aurorus you it's so

445
00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:01,040
beautiful you can't stand it no I love

446
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:03,310
night passes I just adore night passes

447
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:06,320
and so they're incredibly rich you don't

448
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:07,760
always get them you need to get a

449
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consensus remember when you turn the

450
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lights off and get dark-adapted but so

451
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:15,230
the Stars the Stars kind of intermingle

452
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with a street lights you know and the

453
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aurora is is just so beautiful it's

454
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beyond the imagination you barely can

455
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you can stay in it and deny key Lucent

456
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clouds which go to 30 40 miles sign

457
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their color

458
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I thought two sprites and I defined

459
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somebody before they were accepted as a

460
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phenomenon mine were green that's

461
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vertical lightning coming up 30 40 miles

462
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in the moon racing across the ocean to

463
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moon racing down the rivers and so the

464
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moon going down the rivers of course at

465
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an 18,000 miles an hour that's your

466
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speed and the only part of the river is

467
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where the reflection of the moon you can

468
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actually see you can see things with

469
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starlight you don't even need a moon

470
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you can see you can see partially you

471
00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:06,800
can see man messes with starlight so the

472
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whole suite is and then of course many

473
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more stars than you see down here and

474
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the whole celestial sphere is different

475
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the North Star does not remain in the

476
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North you know it depends on your but it

477
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cones around because this is your orbit

478
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and how big the stars up and down it's

479
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not the Earth's orbit it's not the earth

480
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spin and it brings stars up and down you

481
00:20:35,470 --> 00:20:33,200
do 16 times faster in here snow but

482
00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:35,480
anyway the celestial spheres one two so

483
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that passes spectacular I like that

484
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lightning to horizontal lightning it

485
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goes for a hundred miles

486
00:20:45,580 --> 00:20:43,460
yeah well I've seen just lightning from

487
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from an airplane you know from a jet

488
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30,000 feet and it's pretty spectacular

489
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yes whoa yeah

490
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whatever I'm ready okay thanks one of

491
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the again we will take another five or

492
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:01,520
ten minutes here okay

493
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one of the things I always think about

494
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as when you're up there do you like have

495
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in the back of your mind am I going to

496
00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:13,430
get back safely I mean is that always

497
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:18,020
like nagging at you it is done and of

498
00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:21,530
course you know I flew uh I did not fly

499
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:23,630
after Columbia we thought launch was the

500
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really hazardous part of a mission if

501
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:28,790
you got through that there's no signs of

502
00:21:33,790 --> 00:21:31,010
impending disaster up there so you're

503
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very comfortable really so it's not the

504
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site well there's no signs of impending

505
00:21:40,030 --> 00:21:37,370
disaster I wasn't the fan that's very

506
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quiet and Sergey is very smooth and it's

507
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very serene because you're floating

508
00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:44,840
around you know no you don't worry about

509
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that and I never worried during a

510
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:49,000
spacewalk either maybe I should yeah

511
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that was that was totally peaceful like

512
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that okay

513
00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:56,720
we had an astrophysicist dr. Jeffrey

514
00:22:00,940 --> 00:21:58,610
Bennett on here and he was a senior

515
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:00,950
let's say he was a visiting scientist

516
00:22:07,090 --> 00:22:04,610
with NASA and he said that between him

517
00:22:10,060 --> 00:22:07,100
and his colleagues they all sort of

518
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:10,070
agreed that if a intelligence can get

519
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through a bottleneck of technology

520
00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:14,150
without blowing themselves up

521
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we'd be traveling they'd be traveling

522
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the stars is that kind of your

523
00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:20,600
philosophy as well I think you're gonna

524
00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:28,900
let's just say humankind you know we

525
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:31,670
have this bottleneck socially to get

526
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through this bottleneck of Technology

527
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that without blowing ourselves up and he

528
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was you know of course we can't really

529
00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:43,760
predict what other social aspects of

530
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:47,780
other intelligence are out there but but

531
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if they do whoever it is get through

532
00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:53,480
technology without blowing themselves up

533
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:55,070
they probably are traveling the stars

534
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,050
and you mentioned you thought that there

535
00:23:02,350 --> 00:22:58,960
were probably a lot of interstellar

536
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:02,360
travelers out there I think there are of

537
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:04,250
course we need a big breakthrough in a

538
00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:05,840
technical breakthrough so in our

539
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:07,910
chemical rocket engines at the current

540
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:11,090
speeds we need a breakthrough there but

541
00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:13,280
no serious question would we be visited

542
00:23:17,650 --> 00:23:15,380
we were done there's 50 wars this week

543
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:17,660
the world is getting worse right now

544
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:20,570
it's coming apart in terms of what the

545
00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:22,910
specie is doing to itself now it is 50

546
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,580
wars this week and so if you're going to

547
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:26,960
be if you're visiting creature you're

548
00:23:31,630 --> 00:23:28,970
not coming here you're not coming here

549
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:31,640
because the advanced evolutionary string

550
00:23:37,870 --> 00:23:35,210
can't get along with itself if we can't

551
00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:37,880
get along with our own species how are

552
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:40,670
we going to welcome them you see another

553
00:23:44,770 --> 00:23:42,110
thing you look at the earth is a tiny

554
00:23:46,930 --> 00:23:44,780
little speck on there like Cassini

555
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:46,940
trying to take a picture center and it

556
00:23:51,340 --> 00:23:48,770
got a picture this little speck earth

557
00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:51,350
and voyager course took a picture earth

558
00:23:56,110 --> 00:23:54,200
some 1 billion months you've got 30

559
00:23:59,020 --> 00:23:56,120
thousand nuclear bombs sitting on that

560
00:24:01,290 --> 00:23:59,030
little speck and that is not smart and

561
00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:01,300
then it's very good thing to do and

562
00:24:06,540 --> 00:24:04,310
someone that looks in less and sees dad

563
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,550
they say well why would they do that

564
00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:08,960
what is that about and we're not going

565
00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:10,630
there

566
00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:14,270
yeah so so the look from far out could

567
00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:16,790
be a you know it could be kind of a

568
00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:21,620
calibration on who we are right yeah I

569
00:24:26,980 --> 00:24:25,460
think there's a Stanton Friedman kind of

570
00:24:28,420 --> 00:24:26,990
says the same thing you know where we're

571
00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:28,430
in tribal warfare

572
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:30,860
oh why the heck would they want to come

573
00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:33,770
here and show themselves if they are you

574
00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:37,670
know you know if they're if they're

575
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:39,910
watching what's going on you're right

576
00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:42,290
but you know it's funny you hear there's

577
00:24:45,820 --> 00:24:43,750
a lot of UFO sightings whether

578
00:24:49,810 --> 00:24:45,830
extraterrestrial or not but you hear a

579
00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:49,820
lot of sightings during wartime and more

580
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:51,800
situations battle scenes things like

581
00:24:57,730 --> 00:24:55,910
that yeah yeah okay I know you have to

582
00:25:00,970 --> 00:24:57,740
leave fairly soon and that's fine we can

583
00:25:05,260 --> 00:25:00,980
make do on this end here but what do you

584
00:25:07,810 --> 00:25:05,270
say about other astronauts that talk

585
00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:07,820
about UFOs that like Gordon Cooper I'm

586
00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:10,070
sure you probably knew him what do you

587
00:25:17,710 --> 00:25:14,660
think about his comments on the u.s.

588
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:17,720
very well he never brought me evidence

589
00:25:23,169 --> 00:25:21,710
that I could accept as as a intelligent

590
00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:23,179
being on visiting spacecraft from

591
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,929
somewhere else

592
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:26,480
uh-huh God never brought me ever bad

593
00:25:31,150 --> 00:25:29,330
evidence that I could expect that's the

594
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:31,160
that's the hardest part about this whole

595
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:34,460
thing is the is the evidence of course I

596
00:25:41,290 --> 00:25:37,730
mean it's just it is of course you need

597
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:41,300
to this Gordon's won this 600 people in

598
00:25:49,660 --> 00:25:47,120
space or more and he's the only one so

599
00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:49,670
you know you you have to look at the

600
00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:51,830
bell-shaped curve you look at the sample

601
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:54,590
of things you have one person that

602
00:26:01,600 --> 00:25:57,170
thinks they saw something and you have

603
00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:01,610
600 people it didn't now again I am NOT

604
00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:03,500
saying they they have none have been

605
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:05,240
here that's not what I'm saying

606
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:07,910
I understand look at the evidence that's

607
00:26:14,650 --> 00:26:10,730
all and so nobody's brought me evidence

608
00:26:16,510 --> 00:26:14,660
that I can accept conclusively yeah oh

609
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:16,520
you know I'm not saying I'm not saying

610
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:19,010
they haven't been here huh we have a

611
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:21,530
message board and there's a question up

612
00:26:25,630 --> 00:26:23,330
there and I haven't been able to pay too

613
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:25,640
much attention to that tonight but what

614
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:28,130
do you think of the Institute for noetic

615
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:33,440
Sciences Edgar Mitchell yeah well you

616
00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:37,670
know that's what he does okay is that

617
00:26:42,270 --> 00:26:40,460
true well yes well no I don't there no

618
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:42,280
any science is that that

619
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:45,850
that's one thing but Edie is someone it

620
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:48,010
is someone who supports considered a

621
00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:50,380
conspiracy theory and is someone that

622
00:26:56,550 --> 00:26:52,630
makes public statements about a

623
00:26:59,420 --> 00:26:56,560
conspiracy to cover up evidence that the

624
00:27:02,730 --> 00:26:59,430
government covers up evidence about

625
00:27:05,010 --> 00:27:02,740
visitations from out there well I can

626
00:27:07,470 --> 00:27:05,020
only say that I totally disagree with

627
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:07,480
that conclusion I have been on to

628
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:09,850
Department of Defense missions I'm a

629
00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:12,910
Marine I'm Air Force I'm 30 years when

630
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:15,280
NASA I was on to Department of Defense

631
00:27:20,850 --> 00:27:17,230
missions as deep in the government as

632
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:20,860
you can possibly go and I am always open

633
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:23,910
I'm totally honest I'm from the heart

634
00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:28,030
and I never found any evidence for any

635
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:30,700
kind of cover-up there's too many good

636
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:32,890
people in there there when something is

637
00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:35,530
important for the public to know when

638
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:37,180
something's important for Mother Earth

639
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:39,670
to be aware of something that's going on

640
00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:41,650
those people are going to come forward

641
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:43,660
and believe me I'm gonna come forward

642
00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:46,650
believe me I'm not going to let anyone

643
00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:50,680
cover-up stuff it's important to the

644
00:27:58,980 --> 00:27:55,390
species know but again I have no

645
00:28:01,920 --> 00:27:58,990
evidence but maybe ads got evidence I'd

646
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:01,930
over here but again he couldn't bring me

647
00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:02,950
any evidence

648
00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:06,670
so again again it's kind of personal

649
00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:09,700
it's story Musgrave has been looking for

650
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:11,920
conspiracy story Musgrave been looking

651
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:14,470
for the cover-up and I cannot find it

652
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:17,980
NASA is massively totally open that was

653
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,170
their Charter and doggone if they're not

654
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:23,200
and no one in the government or NASA has

655
00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:26,110
ever put the slightest muzzle the

656
00:28:32,390 --> 00:28:28,780
slightest thing on me that that totally

657
00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:32,400
express myself and talk about whatever

658
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,600
that's that's good to hear

659
00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:36,640
do you think it's possible though that

660
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:40,020
that it could be so compartmentalized

661
00:28:45,860 --> 00:28:43,660
that a person like you couldn't even

662
00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:45,870
find out if there was some type of

663
00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:48,160
cover-up even if it was from just a

664
00:28:52,510 --> 00:28:50,920
decades ago hypothetically had the

665
00:28:56,539 --> 00:28:52,520
possibility

666
00:28:59,270 --> 00:28:56,549
but you were you were deep into things

667
00:29:00,640 --> 00:28:59,280
working very very deep I had to

668
00:29:05,330 --> 00:29:00,650
Department of Defense missions

669
00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:05,340
classified missions unknown clients and

670
00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:06,900
so I'm just saying I had classified

671
00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:09,150
missions with the Marines I was there

672
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:12,360
for 30 years with NASA I'm just saying I

673
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:14,910
can't I couldn't find I couldn't find a

674
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:18,240
conspiracy I couldn't find and I was

675
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:20,130
totally open even though I am on the

676
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:21,929
edge everyone knows I'm on the edge I

677
00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:26,250
was accepted as being on edge that's

678
00:29:29,890 --> 00:29:27,390
good that's good to know

679
00:29:32,779 --> 00:29:29,900
another question up on the message board

680
00:29:35,870 --> 00:29:32,789
it says that you weren't happy with the

681
00:29:37,310 --> 00:29:35,880
amount of details abductees provided to

682
00:29:42,020 --> 00:29:37,320
you can you elaborate a little bit on

683
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:42,030
that well it's a matter of if you take

684
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:44,370
yourself if he's simply going explore on

685
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,250
one of the national parks and so yeah

686
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:49,919
Binta price can you haven't been through

687
00:29:55,730 --> 00:29:53,610
the Badlands or Sequoia a person who has

688
00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:55,740
been to the national parks will come

689
00:30:00,049 --> 00:29:57,510
back with unbelievable details

690
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:00,059
it's everything called it's every piece

691
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,710
of sand it's the temperatures the

692
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:03,720
dryness is how it felt

693
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:07,919
and so you go into you know some unusual

694
00:30:12,919 --> 00:30:10,710
environment or scenario the people

695
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:12,929
who've been there come back where

696
00:30:17,270 --> 00:30:14,820
they're just are flowing it's just

697
00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:17,280
coming out in their mark water it is a

698
00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:20,340
total totally flowing description of

699
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:23,070
what their experiences were with what

700
00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:26,940
they saw heard so I just I have not done

701
00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:31,020
that kind but they also they may save

702
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,000
you know they were brainwashed so they

703
00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:35,460
couldn't reveal what happened to them

704
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:40,950
well in something else interesting is

705
00:30:50,270 --> 00:30:43,470
how much the description well yeah let's

706
00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:50,280
go a couple more minutes okay so what

707
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:51,900
type of evidence would you say would be

708
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,610
good evidence for UFOs I mean video is

709
00:31:01,580 --> 00:30:58,559
not and what is what do you think of

710
00:31:04,170 --> 00:31:01,590
video evidence sure it's okay

711
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:04,180
any evidence yeah

712
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:07,740
it's just you know any form of evidence

713
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:10,150
what is some verification where does

714
00:31:15,150 --> 00:31:12,910
some objectivity videos my anything's

715
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:15,160
fine after some objectivity that's

716
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:18,580
beyond the observer so the an observer

717
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:21,250
can take that can take the pictures can

718
00:31:26,190 --> 00:31:23,860
take the video can take the sound and

719
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:26,200
can take their experiences and bring

720
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:28,570
something objective which is outside of

721
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:30,490
themselves to somebody else

722
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:38,920
I see and so with that being said you

723
00:31:44,790 --> 00:31:41,380
say that you have not seen enough

724
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:44,800
evidence or do you mean as far as

725
00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:47,050
anybody in this world has not seen

726
00:31:53,070 --> 00:31:48,940
enough evidence or do you just mean

727
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:53,080
yourself personally Hey only well myself

728
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:56,410
and what was brought to me my others so

729
00:32:00,690 --> 00:31:58,090
this is the personal thing I'm not

730
00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:00,700
saying there but not there I'm not

731
00:32:04,830 --> 00:32:03,070
saying that I'm wholly saying the

732
00:32:06,330 --> 00:32:04,840
evidence that came to me was not

733
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:06,340
satisfactory for me to make that

734
00:32:15,390 --> 00:32:13,360
conclusion I see okay and now I'm just

735
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:15,400
gonna talk to you a little bit about if

736
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:17,770
we got just another minute here yeah um

737
00:32:21,570 --> 00:32:19,650
how do you think do you think the odds

738
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:21,580
how do you think the odds are of

739
00:32:34,650 --> 00:32:32,890
actually finding life on Mars I'm sorry

740
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:34,660
I'm certainly a whole bunch yeah I meant

741
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:37,330
to say signs of former life on Mars what

742
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:40,960
I meant to say yeah yeah sure oh there

743
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:42,250
could be life there too

744
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:44,530
well we know where a bunch is a bunch of

745
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:47,020
canyons of water there and so where'd it

746
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:48,970
go so there was a huge change of state

747
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:51,130
from a visible flowing you know from

748
00:32:56,730 --> 00:32:53,740
flowing water to its current dry state

749
00:33:02,160 --> 00:32:56,740
so I went through so big I'll just be a

750
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:02,170
few seconds here done yeah yeah so Mars

751
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:04,210
a very friendly place and in terms of

752
00:33:08,670 --> 00:33:06,130
terraforming and introducing life to it

753
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:08,680
I think that's very possible to it's

754
00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:10,090
very powerful there was the possibility

755
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:13,750
in life so I think most scientists think

756
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:16,990
it had a big change of state yeah you

757
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:17,770
know a big change

758
00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:20,580
date from back then to what it is today

759
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:23,260
it could have been that place the

760
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:25,390
magnetosphere probably or that could

761
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,610
have been perfect yes oh yeah and of

762
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:29,200
course life life helps to make an

763
00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:31,840
atmosphere is very real atmosphere but

764
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:34,540
life helps to make an atmosphere I think

765
00:33:40,350 --> 00:33:38,200
I think Mars a very living place even if

766
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:40,360
it is not life there now I could support

767
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:42,370
and we terraformed in which you got a

768
00:33:46,830 --> 00:33:45,430
you have to it's got to be ethical you

769
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:46,840
can't tear form something if it's

770
00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:49,450
another life already there you have to

771
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:52,870
respect the other culture well I think I

772
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:55,450
better run okay all right well it's been

773
00:34:00,320 --> 00:33:57,970
it's been great thank you so much okay

774
00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:00,330
Merton I've really enjoyed it a lot

775
00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:03,460
thanks a lot I hope thanks for bringing

776
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,790
me tea listeners you bet okay very good

777
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:09,040
okay all right I'll talk to you later

778
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:12,610
good night good night so that's it for

779
00:34:17,610 --> 00:34:14,770
this guest in what's going to happen now

780
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:17,620
is because we had to do things a little

781
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:19,570
different I'm gonna go ahead and play

782
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:21,130
the news now it's gonna sound a little

783
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:23,649
funny because I think well the news is

784
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:25,390
definitely pre-recorded but I think in

785
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:27,760
that I say something about story

786
00:34:32,490 --> 00:34:29,770
Musgrave coming up at the end so just

787
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:32,500
ignore that who is coming up after the

788
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:35,399
music break instead of story Musgrave is

789
00:34:40,649 --> 00:34:38,470
Australia's Peter Slattery and he is

790
00:34:43,530 --> 00:34:40,659
coming up right after this and right now

791
00:34:46,110 --> 00:34:43,540
I'm going to play the news and it hits

792
00:34:47,310 --> 00:34:46,120
me oh my gosh this is that triangle you

793
00:34:48,659 --> 00:34:47,320
know there's explanation for everything

794
00:34:51,630 --> 00:34:48,669
that occurred in the Rendlesham forest

795
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:51,640
incident you know what that's pretty

796
00:34:57,150 --> 00:34:53,649
funny that was the wrong one here is the

797
00:35:00,120 --> 00:34:57,160
news that I bear with me a lot of people

798
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:00,130
here we go and I can't really think of

799
00:35:06,450 --> 00:35:02,650
much more to say than introduce you

800
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:06,460
Alejandro how are you I am muy bueno

801
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:10,570
that is Spanish for very good thank you

802
00:35:16,110 --> 00:35:13,920
for the Spanish lesson men mm-hm yeah so

803
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:16,120
you know story right you've met him

804
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,970
before I have met story Musgrave and it

805
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:20,560
was a lot of fun cuz he's a really

806
00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:22,300
interesting guy he spoke at a MUFON a

807
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:25,780
few years ago in in California I'm a

808
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:28,390
huge fan of NASA I know conspiracy

809
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:30,130
people like to hate on him

810
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:33,250
I really like you know space and space

811
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:35,920
exploration so I find him terribly

812
00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:38,170
fascinating yeah interesting guy and

813
00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:39,580
there was a there's something Seth

814
00:35:43,710 --> 00:35:41,980
Shostak said to me a while back I'm

815
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:43,720
gonna ask him so what do we have going

816
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:46,090
on for the news this week yeah lots of

817
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:49,930
cool stuff so Dan Akroyd about a week or

818
00:35:55,470 --> 00:35:52,900
so was on The Huffington Post show they

819
00:35:56,730 --> 00:35:55,480
call it the HuffPo show and some of you

820
00:35:59,250 --> 00:35:56,740
may be aware that there's this thing

821
00:36:01,820 --> 00:35:59,260
called HuffPost live where 24/7 they're

822
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:01,830
streaming news and they have this studio

823
00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:04,960
I've been there a few times to visit my

824
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:06,820
buddy Lee Spiegel and you could see I've

825
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:08,830
been on the show actually and it's

826
00:36:13,350 --> 00:36:11,290
really cool but now instead of just

827
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:13,360
these kind of live news pieces kind of

828
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:16,330
CNN ish but it's also you know very

829
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:19,450
casual more casual more millennial

830
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:22,630
hipster kind of style news but now they

831
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:24,970
have a show that they do and they it was

832
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,430
only their third episode it airs every

833
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:29,200
Friday and they had dan Aykroyd on it

834
00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:32,050
and the host said hey you know I I told

835
00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:34,150
myself I'd do this if you ever got to

836
00:36:38,580 --> 00:36:36,190
talk to you you believe in UFOs right

837
00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:38,590
and Dan Aykroyd kind of pause for a sec

838
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:40,540
there were some chuckles coming from the

839
00:36:46,350 --> 00:36:42,850
crowd or I think it's just some people

840
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:46,360
who are hanging out there and so he kind

841
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:47,980
of paused then he went right into it

842
00:36:53,130 --> 00:36:50,890
because Dan Aykroyd's way until UFOs and

843
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:53,140
he loves talking about it so he starts

844
00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:54,730
talking about it he starts talking about

845
00:36:58,740 --> 00:36:56,230
how the Air Force knows about this

846
00:37:00,690 --> 00:36:58,750
there's a conspiracy but essentially

847
00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:00,700
saying that you know the Air Force even

848
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:02,260
though they're not telling us they know

849
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:03,880
what Kent how can they tell us that

850
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:05,800
there's aliens here or that you know

851
00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:07,480
they don't know what's going on and and

852
00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:09,400
he's like I don't think they know much

853
00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:11,380
more than anybody really knows but it's

854
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:13,960
and then they ask them about his own

855
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:15,460
sightings and he talked about how he's

856
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:19,570
had a few sightings that he said they

857
00:37:25,140 --> 00:37:22,330
were definitely aerial constructs of

858
00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:25,150
sometimes kind and then he gave a little

859
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:27,790
more detail about - that he saw in

860
00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:30,370
Martha's Vineyard with a couple of

861
00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:32,350
friends of his - flying side-by-side

862
00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:35,620
that kind of zoomed by going very

863
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:38,230
quickly so really interesting really

864
00:37:43,390 --> 00:37:40,890
cool because he just went straight into

865
00:37:46,549 --> 00:37:43,400
and I started talking about it and

866
00:37:48,620 --> 00:37:46,559
pretty cool yep now I actually saw

867
00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:48,630
somewhere online a picture of you

868
00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:51,420
interviewing him at one time yeah I did

869
00:37:56,660 --> 00:37:53,670
yep locally he came here he's got a

870
00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:56,670
vodka coke Crystal Skull vodka that is

871
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,619
based off of the crystal skulls you know

872
00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:00,720
the legend of those those skulls and

873
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:04,920
everything so we were able to get in

874
00:38:10,009 --> 00:38:07,170
there as press and do a short interview

875
00:38:12,529 --> 00:38:10,019
with him and he was really excited to

876
00:38:14,809 --> 00:38:12,539
talk about it at the time but Hopkins

877
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:14,819
had just passed away he was aware of

878
00:38:19,099 --> 00:38:16,470
that and he mentioned how sad he was

879
00:38:22,220 --> 00:38:19,109
about Budd Hopkins just to show you he

880
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:22,230
stays up-to-date on like the day by

881
00:38:27,579 --> 00:38:24,630
midday news when it comes to UFOs pretty

882
00:38:31,249 --> 00:38:27,589
cool yeah you know his neighbor actually

883
00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:31,259
listens to the show to my show and

884
00:38:37,789 --> 00:38:34,980
really yep and he actually put an

885
00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:37,799
envelope gave an envelope to his

886
00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:39,329
assistant try and get him on my show

887
00:38:44,059 --> 00:38:41,460
from you which was very nice that is

888
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:44,069
very nice that's awesome but of course

889
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:47,880
he's not been on the show so yeah well

890
00:38:52,009 --> 00:38:49,529
good luck yeah we've tried to get him at

891
00:38:54,979 --> 00:38:52,019
the conference and his publicist just

892
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:54,989
wants too much money for us to afford

893
00:39:01,729 --> 00:38:58,140
but hopefully one day you know he'll

894
00:39:05,059 --> 00:39:01,739
he'll kind of come in and you know with

895
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:05,069
MUFON I when I was a director with MUFON

896
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,529
I never got the chance to do this but he

897
00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:09,599
has dinner with the board once in awhile

898
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:12,180
because he really likes move on yeah

899
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:14,430
really cool they had it standing kind of

900
00:39:20,690 --> 00:39:16,799
yearly thing I know for a period of time

901
00:39:22,999 --> 00:39:20,700
Wow yeah but you know the day I get dan

902
00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:23,009
Aykroyd on it's probably gonna be my

903
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,660
last show I'll probably yeah well you

904
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:26,880
can't get better than this and the whole

905
00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:28,890
Costanza and leave on the high note

906
00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:30,980
alright I'm out of here

907
00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:33,900
well I better not say that because my

908
00:39:38,329 --> 00:39:35,940
supporters and listeners will just plain

909
00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:38,339
go away they ever here yeah he's gonna

910
00:39:43,819 --> 00:39:40,440
be on the show so I take that back

911
00:39:44,299 --> 00:39:43,829
I take that back anyway so what else is

912
00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:44,309
happening

913
00:39:50,690 --> 00:39:46,950
well another celebrity and this is kind

914
00:39:53,770 --> 00:39:50,700
of like the our big UFO alien celebrity

915
00:39:58,330 --> 00:39:53,780
talked about UFOs this week and that is

916
00:39:59,920 --> 00:39:58,340
is he beloved Giorgio tsoukalos so of

917
00:40:03,370 --> 00:39:59,930
course he's famous and what was funny is

918
00:40:05,020 --> 00:40:03,380
this he did a read it a reddit AMA were

919
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:05,030
you asking anything kind of thing where

920
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:06,890
people can chat with him and ask him

921
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:09,680
questions and this website called what's

922
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:13,670
culture did kind of the top ten what

923
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:15,410
they felt was a pieces of information

924
00:40:20,350 --> 00:40:18,560
that came out of that whole thing and

925
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:20,360
it's funny because they talked about how

926
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:22,370
nobody knows this guy's name all they

927
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:24,850
know is his photo and the alien stuff

928
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:28,430
because he's so super famous with his

929
00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:30,320
photo with his hair standing up and

930
00:40:35,110 --> 00:40:32,990
everything in particular one that say it

931
00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:35,120
that says I'm not saying it was aliens

932
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:37,940
but it was ailing with aliens you know

933
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:39,950
all of these memes I've got tons of them

934
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:41,450
in this story because it was just too

935
00:40:46,810 --> 00:40:43,970
fun but one of the things they asked him

936
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:46,820
about was his if he had his own UFO

937
00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:48,590
sighting and what's interesting I think

938
00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:51,500
is that he only just recently had it at

939
00:40:57,010 --> 00:40:53,750
the last contact in the desert

940
00:40:59,530 --> 00:40:57,020
conference in in 2014 he said he was

941
00:41:01,630 --> 00:40:59,540
with 26 other people that they were out

942
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:01,640
there doing a night sky watch with some

943
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:04,070
night-vision goggles and at about

944
00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:06,890
midnight they saw what they thought were

945
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:09,230
stars inside the Big Dipper which he

946
00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:11,090
said didn't believe there and after a

947
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:14,180
while they began to move off into space

948
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:16,490
or something so that's how he described

949
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:18,650
it so kind of cool that it's just recent

950
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:21,410
and he'll be a contact in the desert

951
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:23,570
again this year and so will I all be

952
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:25,610
talking out there oh maybe I'll see a

953
00:41:31,150 --> 00:41:28,970
UFO with him how about that yeah so kind

954
00:41:32,350 --> 00:41:31,160
of neat but otherwise it was kind of

955
00:41:34,030 --> 00:41:32,360
funny because of course they asked him

956
00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:34,040
about the hair and why he did it he's

957
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:35,840
like I don't know it just happened and

958
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:39,050
I've heard another story I think from

959
00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:41,030
him I can't remember where I heard it

960
00:41:44,170 --> 00:41:42,350
but he just kind of said he had a bad

961
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:44,180
hair day excited to go with some crazy

962
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:46,490
hair and and people loved it so he's

963
00:41:53,290 --> 00:41:49,250
stuck with that but you didn't say it

964
00:41:56,290 --> 00:41:53,300
was aliens no well he did said my hair

965
00:41:58,300 --> 00:41:56,300
was abducted by aliens and then he went

966
00:42:00,720 --> 00:41:58,310
on to gave that the other answer that it

967
00:42:04,810 --> 00:42:00,730
just happened and what else is going on

968
00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:04,820
a couple of sightings too

969
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:08,060
debunk sorry guys but there have been a

970
00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:09,710
couple sightings out there and you know

971
00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:12,470
I I love sightings when you can't debunk

972
00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:14,870
that's the most fun of course that's the

973
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:16,550
most interesting and what inspires me to

974
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,290
stay in this field but there are some

975
00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:19,760
bigger sightings and it seems like we

976
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:21,320
know what what's going on here there was

977
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:24,710
a UFO video that's been circling quite a

978
00:42:29,740 --> 00:42:27,530
bit of a UFO near this Chile volcanic

979
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:29,750
all right shin yeah yeah

980
00:42:33,850 --> 00:42:32,210
Jason wrote this story my colleague

981
00:42:35,890 --> 00:42:33,860
Jason McClellan and he did a great job

982
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:35,900
because he went through all of the news

983
00:42:40,690 --> 00:42:38,480
and he was able to find this news where

984
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:40,700
there's a pilot who is flying around

985
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:43,250
there and he did some filming uh real

986
00:42:47,590 --> 00:42:45,020
close to the plumes and he's like well

987
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:47,600
that was me that was in a UFO so he put

988
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:48,560
that up there there were also

989
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:50,570
helicopters flying around in the area

990
00:42:55,450 --> 00:42:52,970
and there's video from those helicopters

991
00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:55,460
out on the internet so it looks like it

992
00:42:59,680 --> 00:42:58,220
was this aircraft now Lee Spiegel wrote

993
00:43:02,260 --> 00:42:59,690
about this and he interviewed Mark

994
00:43:04,210 --> 00:43:02,270
Dantonio and Mark Phil's that it's a

995
00:43:07,090 --> 00:43:04,220
drone he doesn't think it is a plane so

996
00:43:09,790 --> 00:43:07,100
I talked to mark about that and we had

997
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:09,800
some back and forth and and Mark says he

998
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:12,200
thinks that perhaps it wasn't the pilot

999
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:14,330
that the pilot was probably up there but

1000
00:43:17,950 --> 00:43:16,130
that he doesn't think it looks like a

1001
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:17,960
plane so it could have been a drone now

1002
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,610
nobody said they were flying drones

1003
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:21,680
about around it there's no evidence that

1004
00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:23,480
there was although that's entirely

1005
00:43:27,850 --> 00:43:25,070
possible because people are filming

1006
00:43:29,110 --> 00:43:27,860
everything with drums these days so it

1007
00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:29,120
was most likely one of those

1008
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:31,670
explanations yeah but what would Giorgio

1009
00:43:45,090 --> 00:43:38,480
say it was alien aliens aliens and the

1010
00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:45,100
last story is also a ufos buzzed the

1011
00:43:51,850 --> 00:43:48,080
bronx no this was not a hoax whatsoever

1012
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:51,860
okay it's very interesting and this is a

1013
00:43:56,740 --> 00:43:54,710
most likely case so it seems like when

1014
00:44:00,640 --> 00:43:56,750
you read their story throughout the day

1015
00:44:02,590 --> 00:44:00,650
in the Bronx in particular a an area

1016
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:02,600
called Hunts Point there were some

1017
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:04,190
reports coming in that there was some

1018
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:06,770
UFO activity so people are reporting

1019
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:09,310
UFOs this is kind of cool though because

1020
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:12,800
the website Inquisitor had found this

1021
00:44:17,319 --> 00:44:15,440
somehow a New York Times reporter I

1022
00:44:18,699 --> 00:44:17,329
guess looked into it

1023
00:44:21,609 --> 00:44:18,709
and I don't think they wrote a story

1024
00:44:24,249 --> 00:44:21,619
about it but he tweeted that he called

1025
00:44:26,019 --> 00:44:24,259
the police and to ask them hey I heard

1026
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:26,029
you're getting a lot of UFO reports and

1027
00:44:29,229 --> 00:44:28,130
they said don't ask us about it or we're

1028
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:29,239
gonna hang up on you

1029
00:44:34,029 --> 00:44:32,209
I said called NYPD they said if I asked

1030
00:44:36,569 --> 00:44:34,039
about it you'll hear a dial tone

1031
00:44:39,370 --> 00:44:36,579
quote-unquote on the last section so

1032
00:44:41,410 --> 00:44:39,380
funny he then tweeted later protip then

1033
00:44:42,910 --> 00:44:41,420
why APD Public Affairs Office really

1034
00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:42,920
does not like it when you call on a

1035
00:44:48,969 --> 00:44:45,859
Saturday night to ask about UFOs in the

1036
00:44:51,339 --> 00:44:48,979
Bronx so he was not treated well

1037
00:44:53,049 --> 00:44:51,349
the New York Post however has written a

1038
00:44:57,279 --> 00:44:53,059
couple stories of it now they're kind of

1039
00:44:59,199 --> 00:44:57,289
a a new they kind of do like a lot of

1040
00:45:02,019 --> 00:44:59,209
the new sites do where they're really

1041
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:02,029
tongue-in-cheek they're almost like if

1042
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:03,910
you have a Village Voice type of thing

1043
00:45:08,949 --> 00:45:06,529
the New Times is what we have out here

1044
00:45:11,499 --> 00:45:08,959
whether they're jokey and their stories

1045
00:45:13,269 --> 00:45:11,509
are really silly so they do a lot of

1046
00:45:16,089 --> 00:45:13,279
that kind of thing in their stories but

1047
00:45:18,249 --> 00:45:16,099
they did interview some witnesses one of

1048
00:45:20,019 --> 00:45:18,259
those witnesses said he saw these two

1049
00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:20,029
things streaking across the sky

1050
00:45:25,569 --> 00:45:23,150
he put his phone out the window of his

1051
00:45:27,969 --> 00:45:25,579
car cuz he was driving and snapped like

1052
00:45:30,969 --> 00:45:27,979
crazy and he thinks he got a picture of

1053
00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:30,979
a UFO it looks like the picture is

1054
00:45:35,709 --> 00:45:32,390
actually the lens flare because he

1055
00:45:37,959 --> 00:45:35,719
started directly into the Sun so I don't

1056
00:45:41,410 --> 00:45:37,969
think he absolutely captured what he saw

1057
00:45:43,749 --> 00:45:41,420
streaking across the sky but people saw

1058
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:43,759
streaks all throughout the night but

1059
00:45:48,819 --> 00:45:46,910
they asked MUFON New York what they

1060
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:48,829
thought about it and move on said I

1061
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,249
think it's the Lyrids a meteor shower

1062
00:45:56,709 --> 00:45:54,319
and they're probably right just because

1063
00:45:58,839 --> 00:45:56,719
these were all little lights streaking

1064
00:46:02,650 --> 00:45:58,849
across the sky every definite every

1065
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:02,660
person kind of described it similarly so

1066
00:46:08,380 --> 00:46:06,170
and actually on Sunday night there was

1067
00:46:10,269 --> 00:46:08,390
in Northern Ireland one of these things

1068
00:46:12,489 --> 00:46:10,279
was videotaped and I've got that in the

1069
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:12,499
story where you see kind of this massive

1070
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:15,140
meteorite light up pretty cool and that

1071
00:46:19,539 --> 00:46:18,049
was a big story out in Ireland they also

1072
00:46:22,259 --> 00:46:19,549
interviewed for this story

1073
00:46:26,709 --> 00:46:22,269
Ryan sprog and guess what he said it was

1074
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:26,719
an alien he did Georgio proud

1075
00:46:31,230 --> 00:46:28,810
he said no he

1076
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:31,240
he'd said that it could be many

1077
00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:32,560
different things it could even be a

1078
00:46:37,980 --> 00:46:34,470
plane because this is near LaGuardia

1079
00:46:39,780 --> 00:46:37,990
Airport but he said just because it's

1080
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:39,790
near the airport you know we can't

1081
00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:42,370
disregard all UFO sightings because some

1082
00:46:48,810 --> 00:46:46,990
of them could be aliens but kind of cool

1083
00:46:50,460 --> 00:46:48,820
Ryan got interviewed in there and I

1084
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:50,470
guess it was in the print article

1085
00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:52,570
because I think I saw him post on

1086
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:56,830
Facebook and I posted his pic to his

1087
00:47:03,360 --> 00:46:59,440
headshot from his website where he's

1088
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:03,370
looking very dashing so that's in the

1089
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:06,070
story as well so these are some big

1090
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:08,440
stories you're going to hear about seems

1091
00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:10,390
like there's explanations for these

1092
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:13,840
sightings however as Martin and I know

1093
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:16,360
there are men T of sightings out there

1094
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:21,250
for which there are no easy answers yeah

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00:47:25,170 --> 00:47:22,600
we'll see you next week

1096
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:25,180
Alejandro all right thank you so much

1097
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:26,950
for having me on again and we'll talk to

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00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,050
you next week so hang in everyone we'll

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00:48:38,160 --> 00:47:30,880
be right back with story Musgrave right

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00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:40,950
okay that tune was by Carrie Lloyd

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00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:43,430
Whitehouse and if you're listening live

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00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:45,650
you can jump over to our chat room at

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00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:49,370
podcast UFO calm and it is not story

1104
00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:51,470
Musgrave coming up we just spoke with

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00:48:58,330 --> 00:48:54,440
him that was pre-recorded news and who

1106
00:49:00,030 --> 00:48:58,340
is on the other end is Peter Slatterly

1107
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:00,040
how you doing Peter

1108
00:49:06,340 --> 00:49:03,730
Goodman and hey gown very good and your

1109
00:49:08,310 --> 00:49:06,350
your your your somehow doing tronic

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00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:08,320
time-travel you're in tomorrow it's a

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00:49:12,310 --> 00:49:10,490
we're here and Wednesday and your

1112
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:12,320
Thursday morning or something right

1113
00:49:18,490 --> 00:49:16,970
yeah 10:50 I am on Thursday and yeah

1114
00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:18,500
your Wednesday they say yeah you're

1115
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:22,070
talking to the future yeah thank you for

1116
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:25,370
joining joining us and you know you were

1117
00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:27,170
really kind to come on like last minute

1118
00:49:33,010 --> 00:49:30,230
I found out that story Musgrave is a

1119
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:33,020
very very busy guy and he didn't realize

1120
00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:35,570
that he was booked for two hours and I

1121
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:38,420
feel like I was lucky enough to get as

1122
00:49:42,550 --> 00:49:40,850
much time as I did with him so I really

1123
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:42,560
want to thank you for being able to just

1124
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:47,210
say yes so quickly and and welcome back

1125
00:49:54,250 --> 00:49:50,930
you were on I think about two years ago

1126
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:54,260
a year and a half ago right yeah of all

1127
00:50:00,730 --> 00:49:55,880
account remember when but it was a wall

1128
00:50:02,290 --> 00:50:00,740
ago yeah yeah and you have if you want

1129
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:02,300
to if you would if you would just

1130
00:50:05,860 --> 00:50:04,220
refresh to the audience a lot of people

1131
00:50:07,690 --> 00:50:05,870
are new listeners and they don't know

1132
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:07,700
your background if you could just kind

1133
00:50:12,130 --> 00:50:09,770
of give your background if you would and

1134
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:12,140
how you got interested in the subject of

1135
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:16,640
UFOs as you can hear on put the

1136
00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:18,770
Australian accent so I'm from Down Under

1137
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,430
I grew up in all be which is situated or

1138
00:50:27,550 --> 00:50:25,280
all be were donger the Albury side is

1139
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:27,560
New South Wales this is twin city or we

1140
00:50:32,980 --> 00:50:30,530
were dango it's a New South Wales side

1141
00:50:35,380 --> 00:50:32,990
next to Victoria sort of about three and

1142
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:35,390
a half hours north east of Melbourne

1143
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:36,770
which is where I'm actually living now

1144
00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:39,530
but always where I was born

1145
00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:42,470
went through school you know hate

1146
00:50:45,970 --> 00:50:44,270
cleaning jobs and stuff like that once I

1147
00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:45,980
left school but I was pursuing a music

1148
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,180
career

1149
00:50:54,339 --> 00:50:50,079
eventually brought out 14 albums and

1150
00:50:58,089 --> 00:50:54,349
then sort of everything went crazy once

1151
00:51:00,970 --> 00:50:58,099
I moved up to Queensland and came back

1152
00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:00,980
to Aubrey basically I just didn't want

1153
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:03,940
to continue on in the music arena and

1154
00:51:08,829 --> 00:51:06,559
this stills is shifting in just my

1155
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:08,839
circumstances and everything and when I

1156
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:11,530
moved back to Oliver I started to have

1157
00:51:16,510 --> 00:51:14,569
sightings of strange aerial phenomena

1158
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:16,520
which I did have when I was younger and

1159
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:18,970
I had some interactions with some weed

1160
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:21,650
what I'll call bangs I didn't seem as

1161
00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:24,170
aliens I didn't seem as demons or angels

1162
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:25,660
I didn't know what the hell I was

1163
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:27,650
experiencing but then everything started

1164
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,130
up in 2010 as I just said and before I

1165
00:51:36,339 --> 00:51:34,640
knew it it went on the news here in

1166
00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:36,349
Australia primetime news I thought it

1167
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:37,670
was just gonna be shown in the local

1168
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:38,839
area because I was just wondering what

1169
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,510
the hell I was saying and lo and behold

1170
00:51:46,299 --> 00:51:43,760
I get contacted by actually somebody

1171
00:51:48,609 --> 00:51:46,309
that was in the military who actually

1172
00:51:50,109 --> 00:51:48,619
left the military few years beforehand

1173
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:50,119
telling me that he'd seen me on the news

1174
00:51:53,950 --> 00:51:52,010
up and I think it was costs harbour

1175
00:51:57,069 --> 00:51:53,960
that's when I realized that this went

1176
00:52:00,039 --> 00:51:57,079
around the country and the sightings

1177
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:00,049
didn't stop and the you know I started

1178
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:02,510
to experience other weird things besides

1179
00:52:07,569 --> 00:52:06,049
shadow bangs and and weed what people

1180
00:52:09,099 --> 00:52:07,579
would call the greys but it wasn't if

1181
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:09,109
these things were more about actually

1182
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,500
white color and things just picked up

1183
00:52:16,569 --> 00:52:14,480
and today they continue I actually take

1184
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:16,579
people out sky watching now of dis film

1185
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:18,470
to craft the other day which I'm about

1186
00:52:22,839 --> 00:52:21,290
to put up soon next to the Sun for 10

1187
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:22,849
minutes with witnesses in my backyard

1188
00:52:26,980 --> 00:52:25,250
here in the city where two and a half

1189
00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:26,990
million people live and I've actually

1190
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:29,750
just moved here September last year to

1191
00:52:34,809 --> 00:52:32,720
be with my partner who's a psychic

1192
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,819
medium and also an HT communication she

1193
00:52:39,130 --> 00:52:37,040
calls herself in terms of she speaks

1194
00:52:40,299 --> 00:52:39,140
Starlin which she's also been on

1195
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,309
television and done different things

1196
00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:42,319
here but since I've moved to the city

1197
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:44,680
I've actually started filming more

1198
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:47,839
objects with witnesses some people I've

1199
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,450
had pilots with me and I thought the

1200
00:52:53,710 --> 00:52:52,160
activity was gonna actually calm down

1201
00:52:57,309 --> 00:52:53,720
but is quite picked up which I'm

1202
00:53:00,170 --> 00:52:57,319
surprised of and a lot of things can be

1203
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:00,180
seen at Peter Maxwell slattery calm

1204
00:53:05,420 --> 00:53:03,690
these lots safe for people to say that's

1205
00:53:07,579 --> 00:53:05,430
sort of just a quick over you know a

1206
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:07,589
thumbnail sketch of Who I am and what's

1207
00:53:14,359 --> 00:53:12,480
going on yes by the way that website is

1208
00:53:16,970 --> 00:53:14,369
right in our show notes you can find

1209
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:16,980
that and click right on that and there's

1210
00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:18,540
other information also in the show notes

1211
00:53:24,260 --> 00:53:20,670
that have the news we just went over and

1212
00:53:26,510 --> 00:53:24,270
all that so one of the things I

1213
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,520
remembered the last conversation didn't

1214
00:53:30,380 --> 00:53:28,800
you say your brother had and you know

1215
00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:30,390
when you were younger was a new your

1216
00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:32,550
brother or our friend or something that

1217
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:38,040
you had like a major encounter or there

1218
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:40,200
was one of my brothers how do you count

1219
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,970
as himself and it wasn't it was pretty

1220
00:53:45,380 --> 00:53:43,440
funny cuz not until a couple of years

1221
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:45,390
ago did he say anything and this was

1222
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:47,400
after I went public and everything which

1223
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,960
I thought was a bit stupid looking back

1224
00:53:54,349 --> 00:53:51,359
now that you do what you do but I'm not

1225
00:53:56,990 --> 00:53:54,359
I'm not too worried now but what

1226
00:53:59,450 --> 00:53:57,000
happened was in 2010 I had a friend with

1227
00:54:01,280 --> 00:53:59,460
me for for deciding still sick starting

1228
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:01,290
he's handed up having one himself

1229
00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:03,990
now he's blurred out in my second last

1230
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:07,380
documentary documentary confirmation but

1231
00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:09,720
it was funny because we still in we

1232
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:11,369
contact each other today and stay in

1233
00:54:17,180 --> 00:54:13,470
touch and he's actually had a major

1234
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:17,190
sighting probably about a year ago and

1235
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,119
he's he's skeptical but like and I like

1236
00:54:25,309 --> 00:54:23,760
skeptics because he himself can't

1237
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:25,319
explain what he's seen with me and what

1238
00:54:29,420 --> 00:54:27,540
he's seen in the last year but I like

1239
00:54:31,130 --> 00:54:29,430
skeptics because they look at both sides

1240
00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:31,140
of the argument and the evidence no way

1241
00:54:34,819 --> 00:54:33,030
their conclusions on it now he said he's

1242
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,829
not saying these are aliens or whatever

1243
00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:36,720
people want to call it but he's saying

1244
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,670
least he's not a friggin satellite it's

1245
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:40,559
not a plane it's not a helicopter he

1246
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:42,569
doesn't know what it was and there's not

1247
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:44,670
too much military activity around or

1248
00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:46,290
where you'd be looking at three hours at

1249
00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:48,359
least or two to three hours because

1250
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:52,140
there is a re are based a but what they

1251
00:54:56,059 --> 00:54:53,670
do is to tanks to come back from

1252
00:54:59,210 --> 00:54:56,069
Afghanistan and Iraq they sort of bring

1253
00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:59,220
they strippin radioed electronics and

1254
00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:01,260
send it back at there's no you know Air

1255
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:04,859
Force there's no nothing like that so

1256
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:06,930
yeah one of my friends had witness a lot

1257
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,970
of this stuff with me today I've got

1258
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:11,040
over a hundred witnesses to a lot of

1259
00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:12,329
phenomena around me and a lot of these

1260
00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:13,420
you can hear them in the

1261
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:14,920
some witness testimony in the

1262
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:18,010
documentaries as well so you know people

1263
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:20,110
have seen some of these stuff with me

1264
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:23,290
and yeah you know I've got it running in

1265
00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:25,510
the family my dad who's a cop for 38

1266
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:25,900
years

1267
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:27,910
or was it cop he was a senior sergeant

1268
00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:30,400
retired now he started witnessing things

1269
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:32,200
with me before I left Aubree as well and

1270
00:55:37,050 --> 00:55:34,570
Hades threw his hands up not knowing

1271
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:37,060
what he was seeing either because I said

1272
00:55:40,410 --> 00:55:39,310
to him you know I hope he sees it one

1273
00:55:43,350 --> 00:55:40,420
day and he ended up saying something

1274
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,360
that that talking back and there was

1275
00:55:47,790 --> 00:55:45,520
high flying jets in the air at the time

1276
00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:47,800
that was estimate there usually fly

1277
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:50,950
around 33,000 feet above wall Bri is he

1278
00:55:56,190 --> 00:55:52,330
going from Melbourne to Sydney or to

1279
00:55:57,870 --> 00:55:56,200
Canberra and these objects were you know

1280
00:55:59,820 --> 00:55:57,880
basically blinking in and out doing

1281
00:56:03,030 --> 00:55:59,830
different things in our lower than the

1282
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:03,040
jet as well which my brother was there

1283
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:05,710
with me so sort of a family event which

1284
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:09,310
was good and before that what did he

1285
00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:12,730
think about your sightings did he did he

1286
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,220
believe what you were saying or it was

1287
00:56:19,650 --> 00:56:17,920
just kind of a wake up for him well I'll

1288
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:19,660
tell you something you know I don't know

1289
00:56:23,490 --> 00:56:21,130
if you've had Mary Rodwell on the show

1290
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:23,500
she's very well known worldwide she's

1291
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:25,450
won a BA Awards with her documentaries

1292
00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:27,580
and she's a hypnotherapist was nice with

1293
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:29,830
Dolores Cannon and she's had over yeah I

1294
00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:31,990
think it's two or three thousand clients

1295
00:56:36,420 --> 00:56:33,940
now and I actually did a documentary for

1296
00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:36,430
recently and this is what ties in with

1297
00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:38,260
what my dad said is what mary says he's

1298
00:56:44,430 --> 00:56:40,840
still the best documentation or evidence

1299
00:56:45,930 --> 00:56:44,440
you can have that how people have really

1300
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:45,940
had an experience a lot is how they

1301
00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:48,250
change their life now

1302
00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:51,160
I've been very vocal in Who I am and my

1303
00:56:54,330 --> 00:56:52,360
rap career

1304
00:56:56,370 --> 00:56:54,340
yes I used to smoke a bit at least and

1305
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:56,380
drink a beer that whatever now I had a

1306
00:56:59,820 --> 00:56:58,210
doctor recently asked me when the dear

1307
00:57:01,380 --> 00:56:59,830
experiences start and I said eight and

1308
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:01,390
he goes well it can't be drug-induced no

1309
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:03,160
I said frickin I found Les Halles doing

1310
00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:05,530
this stuff at eight no way you know

1311
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:07,750
because this is when stuff started but

1312
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:10,960
my father he proofread my first three or

1313
00:57:18,510 --> 00:57:13,510
four books I've got seven books out

1314
00:57:20,490 --> 00:57:18,520
there and he he talked I talked about

1315
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:20,500
these he basically tried to investigate

1316
00:57:25,950 --> 00:57:24,000
me as if he was doing a you know a

1317
00:57:28,290 --> 00:57:25,960
report for the

1318
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:28,300
please you know he looked at everything

1319
00:57:34,410 --> 00:57:31,210
he tried to trick question me he tried

1320
00:57:35,970 --> 00:57:34,420
to ask me things the same way but you

1321
00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:35,980
know with different wording to see if I

1322
00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:41,320
would do whatever and you know he came

1323
00:57:46,349 --> 00:57:43,240
to the conclusion later on that you know

1324
00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:46,359
something's happened to me whether or

1325
00:57:50,910 --> 00:57:49,630
not it's real it's been real to me and I

1326
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:50,920
then I could you know I could produce

1327
00:57:56,460 --> 00:57:52,630
some evidence and then when he saw

1328
00:57:58,170 --> 00:57:56,470
something with me he he believed

1329
00:57:59,700 --> 00:57:58,180
something's going on and that I'm saying

1330
00:58:01,560 --> 00:57:59,710
something I actually predicted when this

1331
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:01,570
was going to happen when when we went

1332
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:03,790
outside and I was telling him that this

1333
00:58:07,230 --> 00:58:05,410
was gonna happen now this isn't

1334
00:58:08,670 --> 00:58:07,240
summoning or anything but I got a voice

1335
00:58:10,620 --> 00:58:08,680
in my head telling me that something was

1336
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:10,630
going to happen all the more of what I

1337
00:58:14,370 --> 00:58:13,210
call thought transferred some people

1338
00:58:15,810 --> 00:58:14,380
would call it telepathy but I would

1339
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:15,820
rather call it thought transferred from

1340
00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:18,970
my understanding and from that point on

1341
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:21,640
and with what also produced and other

1342
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:22,990
people who have told him they've seen

1343
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:25,330
with me lately he's inclined to still

1344
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:27,010
think something's going on and now he's

1345
00:58:30,510 --> 00:58:28,690
had a bit of a taste of it he's you know

1346
00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:30,520
been taken aback by it but what exactly

1347
00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:33,940
still like a lot of people they need to

1348
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:35,470
have the full-blown experience himself

1349
00:58:39,570 --> 00:58:37,330
or they just not gonna get it or else

1350
00:58:41,849 --> 00:58:39,580
you and I wouldn't be smoking and you

1351
00:58:44,460 --> 00:58:41,859
wouldn't be doing the shows Carmen Alice

1352
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,470
wouldn't be doing it and you know this

1353
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:46,000
is sort of the predicament we're in but

1354
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:48,310
people think this is nuts-and-bolts and

1355
00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:52,390
a very small manyu part of this is nuts

1356
00:58:59,070 --> 00:58:57,070
and bolts a lot of this is you know I've

1357
00:59:01,950 --> 00:58:59,080
had experiences lately where I'm

1358
00:59:04,170 --> 00:59:01,960
starting they think a large majority of

1359
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:04,180
my experiences are projected or third

1360
00:59:08,339 --> 00:59:06,250
eye experiences that seem as real as

1361
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:08,349
this computer screen in front of me in

1362
00:59:12,810 --> 00:59:10,960
the microphone now but then again the

1363
00:59:13,770 --> 00:59:12,820
camera is capturing some of these stuff

1364
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:13,780
and then you've got some of these

1365
00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:15,369
experiences where some people will see

1366
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:17,560
the crafts and some people won't and yet

1367
00:59:21,180 --> 00:59:19,570
you can show them the video go on here's

1368
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:21,190
the here's a crafting like what couldn't

1369
00:59:24,990 --> 00:59:23,470
I say that that's on so these are things

1370
00:59:26,970 --> 00:59:25,000
we're all questioning even though I've

1371
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:26,980
got a communication a dialogue going on

1372
00:59:31,140 --> 00:59:28,810
with these things which are far beyond

1373
00:59:32,579 --> 00:59:31,150
even extraterrestrial it goes beyond

1374
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:32,589
that and I'm starting to think now that

1375
00:59:38,310 --> 00:59:34,720
there's one dimension with different

1376
00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:38,320
vibrations in it rather than all these

1377
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,790
different dimensions to people

1378
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:41,920
talk about and these these enterprise in

1379
00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:44,410
between the vibrations but I can't prove

1380
00:59:49,550 --> 00:59:47,350
it's this is what more realities and it

1381
00:59:52,170 --> 00:59:49,560
is what it is

1382
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:52,180
but what can you do with a lot of this

1383
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:53,470
you know there's there's a lot of people

1384
00:59:59,160 --> 00:59:56,230
been investigating this for years they

1385
01:00:01,320 --> 00:59:59,170
haven't seen anything you know I myself

1386
01:00:03,690 --> 01:00:01,330
if I take people out to do the sky

1387
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:03,700
watchers we're using satellite trackers

1388
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:05,320
I'll use sat tracks one of the most

1389
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:06,910
comprehensive ones you're still going to

1390
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,110
have a few things but I'm not looking

1391
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:10,000
for satellites I'm looking for stuff

1392
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:12,220
that's coming down low this change in

1393
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:14,770
direction I'm looking for the skeptics

1394
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:17,200
are looking for because I want to show

1395
01:00:20,850 --> 01:00:18,970
people some crazy stuff and there's a

1396
01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:20,860
few videos up that you can see for

1397
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:22,150
yourself or in the the latest

1398
01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:24,790
documentary they're revealing that I've

1399
01:00:29,730 --> 01:00:28,030
done you can see people's responses and

1400
01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:29,740
you can see some of the footage for

1401
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:32,740
yourself but is there ever a changing

1402
01:00:38,490 --> 01:00:34,390
thing and I think we've got to admit

1403
01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:38,500
that we don't know everything all myself

1404
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:40,060
even an experience to interacting with

1405
01:00:43,950 --> 01:00:42,190
what I'm interacting with I still

1406
01:00:45,810 --> 01:00:43,960
haven't got a clue what's going on and

1407
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:45,820
this is where I think people need to

1408
01:00:50,660 --> 01:00:47,950
accept that I don't know what they don't

1409
01:00:53,610 --> 01:00:50,670
know you've got a take preconceived

1410
01:00:56,070 --> 01:00:53,620
ideas and preconceived notion out of the

1411
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,080
mix I'm you know if you don't your

1412
01:01:00,180 --> 01:00:58,480
debugger either way you're trying to

1413
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:00,190
debunk those that are trying to say full

1414
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:02,710
of crap and all your debunking those

1415
01:01:07,380 --> 01:01:05,110
that are saying you know this is real so

1416
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:07,390
you've got to have that balance I see I

1417
01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:09,280
agree I agree with that so we're right

1418
01:01:14,190 --> 01:01:10,540
at the top of the arrow we're gonna take

1419
01:01:55,229 --> 01:01:14,200
a quick break thank you for filling in

1420
01:02:02,679 --> 01:01:59,349
all right so we're on live with Peter

1421
01:02:03,789 --> 01:02:02,689
Slattery and from Australia and we're in

1422
01:02:06,219 --> 01:02:03,799
the second hour again if you're

1423
01:02:08,679 --> 01:02:06,229
listening Bob you can jump in our chat

1424
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:08,689
room and pose a question and Peter we

1425
01:02:14,049 --> 01:02:10,609
have a question right off the bat

1426
01:02:16,329 --> 01:02:14,059
in our chat room and that is let's see

1427
01:02:21,789 --> 01:02:16,339
can you elaborate can you elaborate on

1428
01:02:23,709 --> 01:02:21,799
the thought transfers all right now if

1429
01:02:25,059 --> 01:02:23,719
we look at some of the stuff what

1430
01:02:26,769 --> 01:02:25,069
doesn't matter what you think of Richard

1431
01:02:28,539 --> 01:02:26,779
Hogan or whoever but you hear people

1432
01:02:31,269 --> 01:02:28,549
even like him and Carl Sagan talk about

1433
01:02:34,839 --> 01:02:31,279
the universal language is mathematics

1434
01:02:36,429 --> 01:02:34,849
and geometry and all that well maybe it

1435
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:36,439
depends what realm you're in but

1436
01:02:40,839 --> 01:02:38,329
something that I could talk to somebody

1437
01:02:42,429 --> 01:02:40,849
from any culture any race or any plane

1438
01:02:45,069 --> 01:02:42,439
in any dimensional whatever you want to

1439
01:02:48,009 --> 01:02:45,079
call it is what I call thought transfer

1440
01:02:51,789 --> 01:02:48,019
and it's basically telepathy but if you

1441
01:02:54,219 --> 01:02:51,799
can connect minds you surpass what you

1442
01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:54,229
even need language for it's like

1443
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:56,449
straightaway what I'm picturing my

1444
01:03:03,209 --> 01:02:59,839
emotions my thoughts and the information

1445
01:03:07,149 --> 01:03:03,219
pertaining to that is basically just

1446
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:07,159
transferred through thought it's the

1447
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:08,809
only way I can put it and this is how

1448
01:03:13,209 --> 01:03:10,609
the interactions have played out

1449
01:03:16,539 --> 01:03:13,219
I talked to of as you know I've got my

1450
01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:16,549
own showing after doing a few now like

1451
01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:18,169
I've done around a hundred shows but

1452
01:03:24,249 --> 01:03:20,630
I've been talking to a lot of people in

1453
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:24,259
the school for four years now and it's a

1454
01:03:27,789 --> 01:03:26,569
very common thing and when I say you

1455
01:03:28,899 --> 01:03:27,799
know just thought transfer they're

1456
01:03:30,399 --> 01:03:28,909
they're sort of like well you know

1457
01:03:31,959 --> 01:03:30,409
that's a good way to interpret it

1458
01:03:33,579 --> 01:03:31,969
because a lot of these people whether

1459
01:03:35,799 --> 01:03:33,589
are their experiences all that is

1460
01:03:37,959 --> 01:03:35,809
skywatching and they're catching awesome

1461
01:03:40,329 --> 01:03:37,969
footage that one thing that's common is

1462
01:03:43,329 --> 01:03:40,339
the thought transfer they know when they

1463
01:03:45,129 --> 01:03:43,339
go out and it's a thought a good way to

1464
01:03:48,219 --> 01:03:45,139
describe and I've used this many times

1465
01:03:50,109 --> 01:03:48,229
is if you can imagine being at work and

1466
01:03:53,049 --> 01:03:50,119
you're working on a particular thing all

1467
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:53,059
day and you just can't get this one

1468
01:03:58,180 --> 01:03:55,130
thing done no matter how hard

1469
01:04:00,010 --> 01:03:58,190
now you'll go home or you'll go and get

1470
01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:00,020
a feed or go and have a beer or see

1471
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:02,270
whatever you do and all of a sudden the

1472
01:04:06,010 --> 01:04:04,370
idea to fix that problem

1473
01:04:09,460 --> 01:04:06,020
to solve that problem comes to you

1474
01:04:11,710 --> 01:04:09,470
instantaneously in a split second this

1475
01:04:14,020 --> 01:04:11,720
but how that thought comes to is how a

1476
01:04:15,610 --> 01:04:14,030
lot of the what I call thought transfer

1477
01:04:18,910 --> 01:04:15,620
and the information from the beings

1478
01:04:20,290 --> 01:04:18,920
whatever they are interact and this is

1479
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:20,300
very common when I talk to a lot of

1480
01:04:23,380 --> 01:04:22,130
experiences go and that's that's how you

1481
01:04:25,660 --> 01:04:23,390
describe it that's how it's

1482
01:04:27,850 --> 01:04:25,670
instantaneous there's a knowingness to

1483
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:27,860
it there's information is always up like

1484
01:04:31,870 --> 01:04:30,410
somebody's got a USB stick and either

1485
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:31,880
they've rounded in your head and you've

1486
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:33,770
downloaded the information or you do a

1487
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:37,490
factly or it's just you know a little

1488
01:04:41,470 --> 01:04:40,010
message and you it might be i'm not

1489
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:41,480
going outside and check on the car and

1490
01:04:45,250 --> 01:04:42,890
as you go and do that you look up at the

1491
01:04:47,170 --> 01:04:45,260
sky not even trying to lots of the time

1492
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:47,180
for my understandings this is the beings

1493
01:04:51,790 --> 01:04:49,370
putting that thought into your mind to

1494
01:04:53,380 --> 01:04:51,800
do so and because in the human what I

1495
01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:53,390
call the human body computer and others

1496
01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:55,550
have been if calling it that can't

1497
01:05:00,850 --> 01:04:58,850
handle some of the real reality this is

1498
01:05:03,490 --> 01:05:00,860
how the thought transfer comes through

1499
01:05:05,620 --> 01:05:03,500
you perceive it as your own thought now

1500
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:05,630
if you can break that barrier and it's

1501
01:05:09,460 --> 01:05:08,000
almost like the beans can push push you

1502
01:05:11,470 --> 01:05:09,470
to a point without they'll test you

1503
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:11,480
every now and then and freak out your

1504
01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:13,760
reality a little bit then it becomes

1505
01:05:17,260 --> 01:05:15,830
more knowing of alright this isn't my

1506
01:05:18,970 --> 01:05:17,270
thought this is something else and you

1507
01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:18,980
can you can send that thought back and

1508
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:20,390
you can actually get some type of

1509
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:24,650
dialogue going on so this is what

1510
01:05:29,770 --> 01:05:26,480
thought thought transfer what I call

1511
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:29,780
thought transfer is if I hope I'm

1512
01:05:35,580 --> 01:05:31,970
describing it in a way the people can

1513
01:05:38,980 --> 01:05:35,590
understand yes we have a chat room and

1514
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:38,990
someone was thinking you meant ESP and

1515
01:05:43,060 --> 01:05:40,400
now he understands what you were saying

1516
01:05:47,470 --> 01:05:43,070
so you put it very well and you know I

1517
01:05:50,350 --> 01:05:47,480
have heard other people say a similar

1518
01:05:51,850 --> 01:05:50,360
thing you know and it's a lot of times

1519
01:05:56,380 --> 01:05:51,860
people that seem to have a lot of

1520
01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,390
sightings like yourself and I wouldn't

1521
01:05:59,770 --> 01:05:58,400
even want to guess how many sightings

1522
01:06:01,360 --> 01:05:59,780
you've had but a number of them and

1523
01:06:04,420 --> 01:06:01,370
you've had witnesses with a number of

1524
01:06:06,070 --> 01:06:04,430
them yeah it keeps getting more and more

1525
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:06,080
and one of my good friends who's

1526
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:08,510
speaking at the Perricone with me at DC

1527
01:06:12,849 --> 01:06:10,490
consumer here in Australia Damien not

1528
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:12,859
now Damien not from my understanding

1529
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:14,390
he's got the most footage in the world

1530
01:06:16,690 --> 01:06:16,010
at the moment he's based in Sydney

1531
01:06:18,430 --> 01:06:16,700
Australia

1532
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,440
he's been on a lot of shows will be good

1533
01:06:21,370 --> 01:06:20,240
for you to talk to him because he

1534
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:21,380
doesn't know what the hell is

1535
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:22,730
interacting with and that's what I love

1536
01:06:27,370 --> 01:06:24,290
about him and we've had experiences

1537
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:27,380
together he was in confirmation my

1538
01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:29,330
second documentary I think it was on my

1539
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:34,100
third and he's a lot of these footage

1540
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:36,410
has been authentic authentic a double

1541
01:06:41,590 --> 01:06:39,890
harmless on lots of people you know in

1542
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:41,600
the military and police officers and

1543
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:43,490
people from all walks of life of witness

1544
01:06:48,970 --> 01:06:46,970
of the sightings with him as well and

1545
01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:48,980
he's having a you know we're feeling

1546
01:06:52,060 --> 01:06:50,390
what I'm getting in Melbourne he's

1547
01:06:55,690 --> 01:06:52,070
getting in Sydney and we're talking

1548
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:55,700
about this is very funny and you know he

1549
01:06:58,840 --> 01:06:57,410
seemed more honest that he just doesn't

1550
01:07:01,090 --> 01:06:58,850
know what's going on but what he does

1551
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:01,100
get is what I call thought transfer he

1552
01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:04,010
will know when they go out and it's just

1553
01:07:09,460 --> 01:07:07,190
the way it is so it's something that's

1554
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:09,470
you know happening and in Australia

1555
01:07:12,490 --> 01:07:11,090
there is lots going on but Damien not

1556
01:07:15,130 --> 01:07:12,500
seems to be somebody there's I've had

1557
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:15,140
him on my show recently because I've got

1558
01:07:20,140 --> 01:07:18,170
a show as well and you know it's just

1559
01:07:21,550 --> 01:07:20,150
good that you know this stuff's getting

1560
01:07:23,140 --> 01:07:21,560
out is what people are saying in

1561
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:23,150
Australian he's actually been on Jaime

1562
01:07:27,220 --> 01:07:25,250
massage so I think it's like once a week

1563
01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:27,230
or once a month or something he's on

1564
01:07:32,290 --> 01:07:29,390
there we sort of updates from Australia

1565
01:07:33,820 --> 01:07:32,300
but you know it's not just myself you

1566
01:07:35,290 --> 01:07:33,830
know I'm talking to people all around

1567
01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:35,300
the country and actually around the

1568
01:07:40,660 --> 01:07:38,990
world my emails would be you know about

1569
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:40,670
equal what I get from Australia in the

1570
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:42,770
UK and America I get emails from all

1571
01:07:46,510 --> 01:07:44,690
around the world every day and you know

1572
01:07:49,150 --> 01:07:46,520
there's lots going on now I'm not

1573
01:07:51,490 --> 01:07:49,160
inclined to believe everyone I'm still

1574
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:51,500
skeptical myself and I want you know

1575
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:53,030
something is will and that's why I can

1576
01:07:57,849 --> 01:07:54,890
understand I don't try approving this

1577
01:07:59,410 --> 01:07:57,859
reality to anyone I just produce what

1578
01:08:00,910 --> 01:07:59,420
I've got and it's up to them to do what

1579
01:08:04,030 --> 01:08:00,920
they want because the last thing I want

1580
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:04,040
is to try and push my reality on others

1581
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:05,570
like their tribe they've tried to do to

1582
01:08:10,090 --> 01:08:08,450
me but they me not might be somebody you

1583
01:08:13,390 --> 01:08:10,100
might want to check out and talk to you

1584
01:08:15,490 --> 01:08:13,400
because he's very articulate about the

1585
01:08:16,539 --> 01:08:15,500
sightings about how they happen he's a

1586
01:08:19,059 --> 01:08:16,549
lifelong

1587
01:08:21,309 --> 01:08:19,069
I would say experience too that he

1588
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:21,319
doesn't know really what he's

1589
01:08:25,900 --> 01:08:22,370
interacting we thought

1590
01:08:27,610 --> 01:08:25,910
you know he's he's very honest about

1591
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:27,620
that which I love because when I went up

1592
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:29,810
to go into saying we had a I was in the

1593
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:32,000
backyard with him and we had a flying

1594
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:33,530
sort of like it literally it was a

1595
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:36,170
friggin full-on something you could

1596
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:39,440
touch Fred a flying saucer come from the

1597
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:40,850
right of us I'm not sure about the

1598
01:08:45,220 --> 01:08:42,890
direction actually it was probably east

1599
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:45,230
and this thing was a thousand foot off

1600
01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:47,570
the ground and it looked like a typical

1601
01:08:51,370 --> 01:08:49,790
flying saucer and there was a flash of

1602
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:51,380
lights going around it which were red

1603
01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:55,730
green blue in yellow and he's got a

1604
01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:58,730
photo of this craft later on but we all

1605
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:01,520
tried war out there because we had orbs

1606
01:09:05,020 --> 01:09:03,770
going off in the house like he said when

1607
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:05,030
I got up there the high strangest

1608
01:09:07,870 --> 01:09:06,110
activity in the house it was like

1609
01:09:10,900 --> 01:09:07,880
something new all together and it just

1610
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:10,910
went off tap but free cameras didn't

1611
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:13,010
work and we charged him all day and as

1612
01:09:17,830 --> 01:09:14,690
soon as his craft flip over the house

1613
01:09:19,660 --> 01:09:17,840
and flew over the town had Danny do the

1614
01:09:21,820 --> 01:09:19,670
camera the cameras worked again and that

1615
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:21,830
was a very interesting siding with him

1616
01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:24,530
and you know he's got lots of other

1617
01:09:27,370 --> 01:09:25,790
stories to tell but there is lots

1618
01:09:29,230 --> 01:09:27,380
happening here in Australia the moment

1619
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:29,240
especially up and down the East Coast

1620
01:09:33,850 --> 01:09:31,970
I'm you do like we were last time on the

1621
01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:33,860
show if you eat there are hotspots and

1622
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:35,600
pull what you could call portal spots

1623
01:09:40,270 --> 01:09:38,480
but the fact of the reality is this is

1624
01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:40,280
happening all around the world now it

1625
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:42,980
was good hearing our story on before the

1626
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:46,330
performing on the show talking about

1627
01:09:50,350 --> 01:09:49,130
observations and I think he's very

1628
01:09:52,330 --> 01:09:50,360
correct in it you know there's been

1629
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:52,340
times when I've gone here and you know

1630
01:09:56,230 --> 01:09:54,410
not until the crafts almost gone that

1631
01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:56,240
have all been out of proved that they

1632
01:10:00,220 --> 01:09:58,400
were looking at a plane you know and

1633
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:00,230
this is the thing sometimes I might seem

1634
01:10:03,820 --> 01:10:02,090
like I'm a bit of a bastard to pay well

1635
01:10:05,470 --> 01:10:03,830
but if it's a dust or but it's a dust or

1636
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:05,480
but it's supplying is supply and if it's

1637
01:10:10,570 --> 01:10:08,510
a satellite it's a satellite and I've

1638
01:10:13,210 --> 01:10:10,580
gotta be honest with people I don't want

1639
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:13,220
them going on thinking you know it's but

1640
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:14,570
you know a lot of the time in the ocean

1641
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:16,370
here because I take people there to see

1642
01:10:20,170 --> 01:10:18,320
the crafts on the ocean you'll have

1643
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:20,180
these big ball light and it will look

1644
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:22,330
like the space station sometimes it is

1645
01:10:28,090 --> 01:10:25,130
because I check all these but sometimes

1646
01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:28,100
it's a plane coming in with a slanting

1647
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:29,990
light on for a few minutes and you're

1648
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:31,520
not going to see the the navigate you

1649
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:33,510
know the blinking lights that you know

1650
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:35,730
and you know all of a sudden that light

1651
01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:37,170
turns off and you can tell it's supplier

1652
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:39,780
so this is where I think knowing stuff

1653
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:42,770
like iridium flares satellites planes

1654
01:10:48,590 --> 01:10:45,650
balloons whatever it is I think it's

1655
01:10:52,510 --> 01:10:48,600
important for sky watchers to know but

1656
01:10:54,980 --> 01:10:52,520
that's not to say that everything can be

1657
01:10:56,510 --> 01:10:54,990
you know it can be work there you know

1658
01:10:57,980 --> 01:10:56,520
exactly what it is does you know

1659
01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:57,990
sometimes you just don't know what you

1660
01:11:00,800 --> 01:10:59,460
see you know in the problem with a lot

1661
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:00,810
of this is that sometimes you are just

1662
01:11:04,580 --> 01:11:02,850
seeing a light in the sky and no matter

1663
01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:04,590
how good or camera you got that's all

1664
01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:07,830
it's going to appear as but there sure

1665
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:09,390
as hell is a lot going on here in

1666
01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:12,210
Australia now if did you say is it all

1667
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:15,060
Bree is that the where you are what we

1668
01:11:18,530 --> 01:11:16,770
swear on from I'm actually located

1669
01:11:21,230 --> 01:11:18,540
Melbourne in the city now I actually

1670
01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:21,240
meant from all be up the Queensland for

1671
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:25,140
a few months and I was living with the

1672
01:11:29,780 --> 01:11:27,300
saw up had him on my show jaws Campbell

1673
01:11:32,420 --> 01:11:29,790
now he's a former scientist for the

1674
01:11:35,810 --> 01:11:32,430
CSIRO which is basically like a

1675
01:11:37,940 --> 01:11:35,820
government here and I was basically

1676
01:11:40,220 --> 01:11:37,950
doing you know Skywalker's from there

1677
01:11:42,110 --> 01:11:40,230
and basically it was a good time out for

1678
01:11:44,780 --> 01:11:42,120
me and helping him but he's got 44 acres

1679
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:44,790
there just off the beach near Mary Road

1680
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:49,410
well and he's met Leo sprinkle and james

1681
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:51,120
gilliland and him stand raman taking a

1682
01:11:55,610 --> 01:11:53,610
lot of other people in the field and we

1683
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:55,620
sort of hit it off until i can't I met

1684
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,210
my partner now and moved to Melbourne

1685
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:58,800
but he's been on my show talking about

1686
01:12:04,340 --> 01:12:00,960
his experiences it was fascinating

1687
01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:04,350
because because he's a scientist he when

1688
01:12:09,260 --> 01:12:05,940
he got brain scans he thought he was

1689
01:12:11,540 --> 01:12:09,270
going nuts people were saying this with

1690
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:11,550
him and he's talked about mantid purple

1691
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:13,650
bluish see-through Mantid beings with

1692
01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:15,570
beads alight in their vein so to see

1693
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:19,020
through he's one of the most articulate

1694
01:12:26,180 --> 01:12:23,130
person people in how he describes the

1695
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:26,190
space and time how how these events

1696
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:28,560
occurred which is very well worth

1697
01:12:35,420 --> 01:12:30,030
listening to and he's got great

1698
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,430
credentials he was a geneticist but we

1699
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:36,960
hit it off very much so and he's

1700
01:12:39,620 --> 01:12:38,310
somebody that has helped keep me

1701
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:39,630
grounded as well we've had some

1702
01:12:44,210 --> 01:12:41,930
experiences together walls up there but

1703
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:44,220
you know once I met my partner who

1704
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:46,300
cannot to actually visit marry myself on

1705
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:48,850
I'm down in the city now and things are

1706
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:52,330
continuing right we have a question up

1707
01:12:59,850 --> 01:12:56,560
on the message board now when people get

1708
01:13:02,430 --> 01:12:59,860
this thought transfer do they actually

1709
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:02,440
have like a humming in their ear have

1710
01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:06,160
you ever heard of that there is now some

1711
01:13:10,350 --> 01:13:07,750
people sighs tendinitis but I'll tell

1712
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:10,360
you what cause I always on stage we've

1713
01:13:15,690 --> 01:13:13,450
freaking 100 and plus what spike is next

1714
01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:15,700
we head and I was a drummer in a band

1715
01:13:19,380 --> 01:13:17,680
and I can tell you that there's a

1716
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:19,390
difference now some people might might

1717
01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:21,040
actually be getting tendonitis or

1718
01:13:27,330 --> 01:13:23,820
whatever they call it but there is a low

1719
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:27,340
hum and sometimes is that high pitch of

1720
01:13:32,580 --> 01:13:30,670
a harm that it's you know it's really

1721
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:32,590
really high pitch almost like something

1722
01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:36,090
you think a dollar a cat can hear

1723
01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:39,460
there's many different ways you could

1724
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:43,750
take this or what those hams are from

1725
01:13:47,220 --> 01:13:45,490
one of the bangs I'll talk to you she's

1726
01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:47,230
gone into a few different facets of what

1727
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,540
these things are thought transfer is a

1728
01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:51,360
part of it some of this got to do with

1729
01:13:55,170 --> 01:13:53,470
Commandments coming from what she calls

1730
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:55,180
the higher self down into the body now

1731
01:14:00,300 --> 01:13:57,760
this may dis be alright he's just lost

1732
01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:00,310
me but I've gotta tell it like it is as

1733
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:02,740
it's been produced to me and shown to me

1734
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:06,970
in and thought transferred to me but you

1735
01:14:11,970 --> 01:14:08,290
know sometimes when people are hearing

1736
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:11,980
these hums and on my documentary and

1737
01:14:16,710 --> 01:14:15,010
there's a audio clip now I've had a

1738
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:16,720
regression with Mary Rothwell which has

1739
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:20,350
become quite known on the internet due

1740
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,090
to we can say our writing Pete's

1741
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:24,640
regression with Mary Rodwell the bangs

1742
01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:26,170
talk through me and it's very similar to

1743
01:14:31,170 --> 01:14:28,870
what Dominique had to happen with his

1744
01:14:33,330 --> 01:14:31,180
ones and I can understand people's take

1745
01:14:35,610 --> 01:14:33,340
on him now though I do consider him a

1746
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:35,620
friend and I just don't you know I don't

1747
01:14:39,780 --> 01:14:38,170
like to judge people because I know what

1748
01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:39,790
it's like to be judged myself and you

1749
01:14:42,750 --> 01:14:41,230
can see you know we talked about this

1750
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:42,760
before but I will say you can see what

1751
01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:44,530
he's done on the show but I love him and

1752
01:14:48,750 --> 01:14:47,020
Lisa and I support what he does but

1753
01:14:50,220 --> 01:14:48,760
unless you're an experienced - like

1754
01:14:54,540 --> 01:14:50,230
myself will stand and you've been

1755
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:54,550
through run for the robes you know you

1756
01:14:58,230 --> 01:14:56,530
just can't judge people unless you've

1757
01:14:59,970 --> 01:14:58,240
walked in their shoes and I'll just say

1758
01:15:02,700 --> 01:14:59,980
that but there's the same

1759
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:02,710
I went to Mary Rodwell about because I

1760
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:06,120
had an experience where I was going from

1761
01:15:11,550 --> 01:15:10,000
Aubree to Mount Buffalo and I'd left

1762
01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:11,560
Beechworth on the way there which is

1763
01:15:15,810 --> 01:15:13,630
weird they'd kept the famous need Kelly

1764
01:15:19,340 --> 01:15:15,820
bushranger was jailed for quite some

1765
01:15:21,810 --> 01:15:19,350
time and as I left there with a friend

1766
01:15:24,690 --> 01:15:21,820
there was this weed the only way I can

1767
01:15:27,570 --> 01:15:24,700
describe it is a weird low low low low

1768
01:15:30,060 --> 01:15:27,580
harm and a really high pitched sound at

1769
01:15:32,190 --> 01:15:30,070
the same time now I'd never heard from

1770
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:32,200
any craft the only thing I heard any

1771
01:15:37,530 --> 01:15:34,210
time was almost something like when you

1772
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:37,540
near a transformer box for for

1773
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:39,280
electricity the only thing I've heard

1774
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:40,930
want any time and it wasn't even that

1775
01:15:45,210 --> 01:15:42,610
louder to see only time I had any Sam

1776
01:15:47,850 --> 01:15:45,220
that was from one experience but I'm

1777
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:47,860
driving the car and I can't find these

1778
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:49,930
turn off and I know this area like the

1779
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:52,810
back of my hand an idea the bush area

1780
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:54,910
between all me and my buff I could do it

1781
01:15:58,770 --> 01:15:56,560
with my eyes closed I know really well

1782
01:16:02,610 --> 01:15:58,780
and I couldn't find these turn off and I

1783
01:16:06,180 --> 01:16:02,620
had this I had a friend with me and all

1784
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:06,190
of a sudden we get these noise and we're

1785
01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:08,770
at this town and I get I get a thought

1786
01:16:11,730 --> 01:16:10,150
transfer telling me to go to Lake

1787
01:16:13,650 --> 01:16:11,740
Buffalo and I hadn't been there for

1788
01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:13,660
years anyway I pull up we get out of the

1789
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:15,070
car and there's a source of blinking and

1790
01:16:22,590 --> 01:16:19,410
out above us it was a good size too

1791
01:16:24,450 --> 01:16:22,600
anyway I get home and I tell Mary Rob

1792
01:16:26,370 --> 01:16:24,460
will marry you're not gonna believe what

1793
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:26,380
happened you know and I told her and I

1794
01:16:29,940 --> 01:16:28,270
didn't think anything about it at the at

1795
01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:29,950
the time except there was this weed

1796
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:31,870
friggin noise anyway Mary goes hang on

1797
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:34,870
pay and she goes did it sound like this

1798
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:36,730
since you played this audio clip and I'm

1799
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,830
like boy ma that's exactly what I heard

1800
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:40,960
I go what is it and she said that's the

1801
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:44,800
sound of a of a UFO that James D Leland

1802
01:16:49,550 --> 01:16:48,130
recorded as a win over his ranch anyway

1803
01:16:53,220 --> 01:16:49,560
I was taken aback because it was exactly

1804
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,230
what I heard now you can hear it in my

1805
01:16:57,330 --> 01:16:55,840
documentary our confirmation or you can

1806
01:17:00,480 --> 01:16:57,340
I think you might even be able to hear

1807
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:00,490
it on the regression itself because I

1808
01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:02,530
made a video err but but the funny thing

1809
01:17:07,410 --> 01:17:05,380
is is that that this was not in the

1810
01:17:08,970 --> 01:17:07,420
public domain it had never been up on

1811
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:08,980
the internet and if you listen to the

1812
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:10,480
billy meier stuff or anything else

1813
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:11,679
whether you believe that

1814
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:13,210
believe Billy had experiences up to a

1815
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:16,170
certain point I'm not so sure now but

1816
01:17:21,689 --> 01:17:19,960
this is very much what I heard in

1817
01:17:23,790 --> 01:17:21,699
completely different from what Billy is

1818
01:17:25,740 --> 01:17:23,800
recorded and others recorded this audio

1819
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:25,750
I'd never heard of before but is very

1820
01:17:33,450 --> 01:17:30,130
similar to a Tibetan singing bowl so

1821
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:33,460
you've got this really low whiny harm

1822
01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:37,120
and a really high pitch sound with it so

1823
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:38,350
that's just another thing they go into

1824
01:17:41,610 --> 01:17:39,760
besides that the sound in the ears

1825
01:17:44,370 --> 01:17:41,620
because I have a lot of experiences

1826
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:44,380
telling me but they hear the sound and

1827
01:17:48,300 --> 01:17:46,390
then I'll play that audio clip for him

1828
01:17:53,010 --> 01:17:48,310
and they're like are that's pretty much

1829
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:53,020
what I heard so I had deep have you

1830
01:17:58,140 --> 01:17:54,850
heard what I'm talking about or have you

1831
01:18:00,570 --> 01:17:58,150
come across that at all no I've never

1832
01:18:04,260 --> 01:18:00,580
actually heard that I might be able to

1833
01:18:06,030 --> 01:18:04,270
ply it up on the other part of the

1834
01:18:09,090 --> 01:18:06,040
internet now if the condenser mod would

1835
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:09,100
do would you want me to give it a go why

1836
01:18:12,689 --> 01:18:09,640
not

1837
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:12,699
oh just don't for any typos night so why

1838
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:17,440
not do something like this why not so

1839
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:22,110
this is just trying to fajn the audio

1840
01:18:27,810 --> 01:18:25,510
now I know when you're you're a humble

1841
01:18:29,340 --> 01:18:27,820
guy because I mentioned to you last

1842
01:18:30,810 --> 01:18:29,350
night that we could talk about your show

1843
01:18:33,390 --> 01:18:30,820
and you said you didn't really want to

1844
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:33,400
but you've had a hundred people on there

1845
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:35,710
and you started your show after you were

1846
01:18:42,090 --> 01:18:39,760
on my show so you if you've had a lot of

1847
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:42,100
shows you're running is it once a week

1848
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:45,489
or is it more than that I don't have a

1849
01:18:49,020 --> 01:18:47,650
set tall or anything in the other reason

1850
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:49,030
I do that is because I say a lot of

1851
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:51,040
shows have problems we set times unless

1852
01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:53,110
I'm like you've got a crew working with

1853
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:54,940
you in a lot of people that and I know

1854
01:18:58,640 --> 01:18:56,650
you're organizing these shows yourself

1855
01:19:01,500 --> 01:18:58,650
so everyone sort of doing something but

1856
01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:01,510
you know as I'm having experienced

1857
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:03,070
myself sometimes I couldn't be stuff

1858
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:04,570
getting out of bed till midday because

1859
01:19:08,729 --> 01:19:06,640
I'm that drained from the experience or

1860
01:19:10,380 --> 01:19:08,739
I've got something going on I just try

1861
01:19:12,570 --> 01:19:10,390
to make it constant at least I want to

1862
01:19:15,630 --> 01:19:12,580
get one done a month sometimes I've had

1863
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:15,640
four date a month done it's just when I

1864
01:19:20,129 --> 01:19:17,290
can get it done I get it done it's just

1865
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:20,139
one of those things but it seems to have

1866
01:19:23,939 --> 01:19:22,690
taken off quite well and main reason I

1867
01:19:24,620 --> 01:19:23,949
want to get out there was to try and get

1868
01:19:28,250 --> 01:19:24,630
more astray

1869
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,260
stuff out there but it's just being good

1870
01:19:31,790 --> 01:19:30,239
because I get a lot of experiences on

1871
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:31,800
the show and I sort of just I don't

1872
01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:34,020
believe everyone but I tend to be more

1873
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:35,820
uncut and just like people will speak

1874
01:19:40,129 --> 01:19:38,610
what they want to speak and I'll let

1875
01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:40,139
everyone make up the judgement them so I

1876
01:19:44,990 --> 01:19:41,820
think people can tell when someone's

1877
01:19:46,129 --> 01:19:45,000
talking crap so but that's something

1878
01:19:47,780 --> 01:19:46,139
I've wanted to do because a lot of

1879
01:19:49,790 --> 01:19:47,790
experiences you know there's more

1880
01:19:51,950 --> 01:19:49,800
researchers listen to in the field and I

1881
01:19:53,899 --> 01:19:51,960
think to get an understanding of what's

1882
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:53,909
going on even though I don't think any

1883
01:19:57,709 --> 01:19:56,130
one person has got the got an idea

1884
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:57,719
what's going on I think if we listen to

1885
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:01,440
the commonalities between experiences we

1886
01:20:04,399 --> 01:20:03,090
can start to build pictures because a

1887
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,409
lot of the time talking especially

1888
01:20:08,750 --> 01:20:06,239
researchers in the states that have been

1889
01:20:10,850 --> 01:20:08,760
doing this stuff for years there one

1890
01:20:14,419 --> 01:20:10,860
thing that them and myself have talked

1891
01:20:17,149 --> 01:20:14,429
about is a lot of people are willing to

1892
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:17,159
tell you about orbs and greys and crafts

1893
01:20:21,410 --> 01:20:19,110
and a little bit of high strangeness but

1894
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:21,420
the really really crazy stuff they're

1895
01:20:24,260 --> 01:20:22,800
not willing to talk about until they

1896
01:20:27,860 --> 01:20:24,270
hear somebody else have the balls enough

1897
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:27,870
to go into deep areas so it's sort of -

1898
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:29,610
sigh - some people are embellishing

1899
01:20:33,979 --> 01:20:31,489
which I don't understand why they do cuz

1900
01:20:36,410 --> 01:20:33,989
quite frankly I think this is far out

1901
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:36,420
enough as it is you know to bend the

1902
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:38,400
mines to put our own perception in

1903
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:40,800
reality but you know that's another side

1904
01:20:43,820 --> 01:20:41,940
that people don't really think much

1905
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:43,830
about is some some of the real hardcore

1906
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:45,449
stuff isn't spoken about but these

1907
01:20:48,890 --> 01:20:47,400
people distained want to talk of it and

1908
01:20:50,510 --> 01:20:48,900
I can understand that because you know

1909
01:20:53,450 --> 01:20:50,520
they're already considered or not or not

1910
01:20:56,180 --> 01:20:53,460
but I've got this audio here so I've got

1911
01:21:00,140 --> 01:20:56,190
to turn it up pretty loud because um it

1912
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:00,150
was really low okay so let's give it a

1913
01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:42,410
now that spotted james gilliland

1914
01:21:47,570 --> 01:21:44,310
recorder and his ranch some people might

1915
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:47,580
feel a bit weird from that i saw to have

1916
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:49,890
flashbacks to that day with that just

1917
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:52,650
because it's so resonates but it's up to

1918
01:21:56,209 --> 01:21:54,330
people to believe what they want but um

1919
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:56,219
you know sometimes I've had the crafts

1920
01:21:58,970 --> 01:21:57,600
land over the bedroom and there's been

1921
01:22:00,770 --> 01:21:58,980
something like that and my partner's

1922
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:00,780
seen it with me as well which I'm quite

1923
01:22:07,310 --> 01:22:02,130
blessed have a partner that some

1924
01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:07,320
inexperienced are also yeah so that was

1925
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:09,750
actually a recorded sound that was a

1926
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:13,260
recorded sound that james gilliland

1927
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:16,080
recorded the audio he recorded that

1928
01:22:20,180 --> 01:22:17,520
audio from I understand from Mary

1929
01:22:22,700 --> 01:22:20,190
Rodwell a lady called Kathy Dickman sent

1930
01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:22,710
it to Mary and Mary sent it to me but

1931
01:22:27,260 --> 01:22:25,320
it's from James originally and that's

1932
01:22:32,209 --> 01:22:27,270
what he recorded at the a Sadie ranch as

1933
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:32,219
the craft went over the home Wow Wow

1934
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:35,010
yeah so if and that's something I

1935
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:36,330
haven't heard anywhere else oh I haven't

1936
01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:38,610
heard any other like when he if you type

1937
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:41,040
in audio recordings of UFOs I have not

1938
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,550
heard that

1939
01:22:46,490 --> 01:22:43,440
to this day anywhere else but through

1940
01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:46,500
James know I had someone on I think it

1941
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:49,620
was two weeks ago and that was David

1942
01:22:55,910 --> 01:22:51,810
Marlar talking about you know triangle

1943
01:22:58,850 --> 01:22:55,920
UFOs and I he did say that there was one

1944
01:23:00,290 --> 01:22:58,860
particular instance where there was some

1945
01:23:03,620 --> 01:23:00,300
humming now whether what sounded like

1946
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:03,630
that or not you know so if you're if

1947
01:23:08,540 --> 01:23:05,010
you're listening live and you're just

1948
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:08,550
joining us we're on with Peter Slattery

1949
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:12,570
from Australia and you can also jump in

1950
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:16,560
our chat room at podcast UFO calm and

1951
01:23:25,610 --> 01:23:22,500
ask Peter post Peter a question so this

1952
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:25,620
this person that that recorded that had

1953
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:28,800
he had an experience before anything

1954
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:31,170
like that um have you ever heard the

1955
01:23:37,010 --> 01:23:33,170
James D Leland

1956
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:37,020
he's got the a city range in Washington

1957
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:39,570
yeah that's the dude that recorded it so

1958
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:43,050
he's been on lots of documentaries in TV

1959
01:23:48,889 --> 01:23:44,489
shows

1960
01:23:50,299 --> 01:23:48,899
I resonate dearly with James dolls who

1961
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,309
are leave with helping Queensland the

1962
01:23:53,719 --> 01:23:52,320
scientists actually live with James for

1963
01:23:56,359 --> 01:23:53,729
a few months and he's really good

1964
01:23:58,729 --> 01:23:56,369
friends with him and people have you

1965
01:24:00,580 --> 01:23:58,739
know they take on James but he's had you

1966
01:24:02,989 --> 01:24:00,590
know he's been on our bill live when

1967
01:24:05,929 --> 01:24:02,999
people from some of the the projects to

1968
01:24:07,219 --> 01:24:05,939
work on some of the hard core you know

1969
01:24:08,389 --> 01:24:07,229
for Lockheed Martin and all through

1970
01:24:09,709 --> 01:24:08,399
government and all that sort of stuff

1971
01:24:11,419 --> 01:24:09,719
with ear saying stuff going on this

1972
01:24:13,969 --> 01:24:11,429
isn't freaking satellites or our stuff

1973
01:24:16,459 --> 01:24:13,979
and we work on these stuff so you know

1974
01:24:19,459 --> 01:24:16,469
whether you believe James is taken on a

1975
01:24:21,229 --> 01:24:19,469
you know to me what he who he is what

1976
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:21,239
which is why I'm good in my my show it

1977
01:24:24,529 --> 01:24:23,010
dearly resonates and I think until

1978
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:24,539
people go to the ranch I've been there

1979
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:27,090
personally but I've talked to people and

1980
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:29,280
seen footage and is very similar to what

1981
01:24:37,129 --> 01:24:34,320
I'm filming and saying and yeah is just

1982
01:24:38,839 --> 01:24:37,139
go to a city comm or.org of might be and

1983
01:24:40,339 --> 01:24:38,849
people can see a lot of different stuff

1984
01:24:43,939 --> 01:24:40,349
that James got he's been doing these

1985
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:43,949
stuff since I was born so you know and

1986
01:24:47,899 --> 01:24:46,050
he's got you know hundreds hours I think

1987
01:24:51,379 --> 01:24:47,909
from what people has said to back up the

1988
01:24:52,549 --> 01:24:51,389
the claims in terms of footage okay now

1989
01:24:55,759 --> 01:24:52,559
one of the things I want to talk about

1990
01:24:59,060 --> 01:24:55,769
is and checking on my I do get a lot of

1991
01:25:01,129 --> 01:24:59,070
email to from all over the place and a

1992
01:25:04,540 --> 01:25:01,139
number of them are from Australia and

1993
01:25:07,699 --> 01:25:04,550
there's a Australia is when I do my

1994
01:25:10,189 --> 01:25:07,709
analytics for my website as far as

1995
01:25:14,060 --> 01:25:10,199
traffic goes Australia is always up in

1996
01:25:17,989 --> 01:25:14,070
the top five and so my question to you

1997
01:25:20,750 --> 01:25:17,999
is that as you consider Australians more

1998
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:20,760
open-minded to the UFO subject or how is

1999
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:22,530
that taken there and thought of there in

2000
01:25:31,009 --> 01:25:28,289
general it's hard to say you know like

2001
01:25:32,779 --> 01:25:31,019
for example Australia's only 23 24

2002
01:25:35,899 --> 01:25:32,789
million people to the landmass of

2003
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:35,909
America so we basically got the same

2004
01:25:39,139 --> 01:25:37,530
land masses America from my

2005
01:25:42,049 --> 01:25:39,149
understanding from the research and what

2006
01:25:43,819 --> 01:25:42,059
I've seen now if you're getting a lot of

2007
01:25:45,770 --> 01:25:43,829
traffic from Australia that means a hell

2008
01:25:47,569 --> 01:25:45,780
of a lot even though is still a small

2009
01:25:48,979 --> 01:25:47,579
percentage in terms of population wise

2010
01:25:50,719 --> 01:25:48,989
that's still a fair amount of people

2011
01:25:52,729 --> 01:25:50,729
that's competing with America and Canada

2012
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,739
and whatever else you got listening to

2013
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:55,199
you so I think that says there's a fair

2014
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:56,330
bit

2015
01:26:04,459 --> 01:26:00,239
now I've talked to so many people that

2016
01:26:05,930 --> 01:26:04,469
have you know UFOs they're seen a lot in

2017
01:26:08,270 --> 01:26:05,940
Australia a lot of people are

2018
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:08,280
open-minded now it's when you start

2019
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:09,810
saying they're 80 or they're

2020
01:26:12,379 --> 01:26:11,130
interdimensional whatever that you know

2021
01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:12,389
people go you know I just you know

2022
01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:14,040
that's just too much for me but then you

2023
01:26:18,290 --> 01:26:15,840
make some people that just you know that

2024
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:18,300
doesn't phase but it's just like

2025
01:26:22,910 --> 01:26:20,489
anywhere else you've just got the people

2026
01:26:25,660 --> 01:26:22,920
that straightaway you lose them as soon

2027
01:26:28,010 --> 01:26:25,670
as you go there and sometimes you don't

2028
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:28,020
but it is getting played more and more

2029
01:26:31,970 --> 01:26:30,000
on the news or I don't watch telly for

2030
01:26:36,709 --> 01:26:31,980
you but from what I'm saying when I do

2031
01:26:38,419 --> 01:26:36,719
post news on my website you know you got

2032
01:26:41,060 --> 01:26:38,429
your tongue to take stories but even

2033
01:26:45,740 --> 01:26:41,070
when I was on national Morning News here

2034
01:26:47,450 --> 01:26:45,750
in 2012 I was given a fair go I could

2035
01:26:49,570 --> 01:26:47,460
tell I wanted to be smart asses about it

2036
01:26:51,620 --> 01:26:49,580
but I brought up the reality of the

2037
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:51,630
professional witnesses and people that

2038
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:54,000
have got highly respectable positions

2039
01:26:57,770 --> 01:26:56,370
that had been in government and the

2040
01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:57,780
amount of sightings and everything else

2041
01:27:02,689 --> 01:27:00,300
and it was you know not too much

2042
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,699
tongue-in-cheek from then on but it is

2043
01:27:07,250 --> 01:27:05,520
taken pretty well here especially up and

2044
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:07,260
down the East Coast again in Australia

2045
01:27:11,419 --> 01:27:08,730
this is where a lot of the activity

2046
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,429
seems to be happening now you know we

2047
01:27:14,570 --> 01:27:13,440
hear all these stories of this NASA that

2048
01:27:16,610 --> 01:27:14,580
it's the government but you know you

2049
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:16,620
look at a lot of NASA's stuff you know

2050
01:27:19,490 --> 01:27:17,850
there was some stuff with the spiral

2051
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:19,500
that I was saying it was a disregarded

2052
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:21,449
rocket from Cape Canaveral in it from

2053
01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:23,610
Florida now you go and look at all the

2054
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:26,100
the stuff from NASA the last thing

2055
01:27:29,899 --> 01:27:27,690
they're going to friggin do is fly or

2056
01:27:33,169 --> 01:27:29,909
disregard a rocket over a populated area

2057
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:33,179
anywhere and yet this happens to go from

2058
01:27:37,729 --> 01:27:35,489
Melbourne to Sydney on an angle and then

2059
01:27:40,970 --> 01:27:37,739
go up to Queensland so it follows the

2060
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:40,980
most populated area in Australia you

2061
01:27:44,750 --> 01:27:42,719
know and but what it does when you get

2062
01:27:47,660 --> 01:27:44,760
things like these what it does is it

2063
01:27:49,550 --> 01:27:47,670
puts public awareness on it again I

2064
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:49,560
don't want to push my BRD on anyone but

2065
01:27:53,810 --> 01:27:51,810
what I do like to do is make just blank

2066
01:27:55,490 --> 01:27:53,820
people think you know if you can just

2067
01:27:57,919 --> 01:27:55,500
bring up something or whatever it is all

2068
01:28:00,260 --> 01:27:57,929
there are these news stories it just you

2069
01:28:02,090 --> 01:28:00,270
know opens people up to you know what

2070
01:28:03,860 --> 01:28:02,100
myself and you know millions of other

2071
01:28:06,410 --> 01:28:03,870
people witness on on a daily occurrence

2072
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,420
what is it which isn't just crafts but

2073
01:28:09,170 --> 01:28:08,400
horror strangers paranormal activity

2074
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:09,180
whatever

2075
01:28:15,710 --> 01:28:12,570
to label it as now how would you say the

2076
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:15,720
the Australian government looks at the

2077
01:28:22,220 --> 01:28:20,730
subject well we have had papers released

2078
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:22,230
you could probably go to a Bob

2079
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:23,850
top-secret I think he's one of them I

2080
01:28:25,850 --> 01:28:25,530
don't I don't hang out all forms or

2081
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:25,860
anything

2082
01:28:31,130 --> 01:28:27,840
I've actually got all the Australian

2083
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:31,140
release papers here if that were in the

2084
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:33,120
archives now there are still some that

2085
01:28:39,860 --> 01:28:37,280
are not to be made public Declassified

2086
01:28:42,710 --> 01:28:39,870
look the fact of the matter is is that

2087
01:28:45,170 --> 01:28:42,720
we are so much your allies in America

2088
01:28:48,050 --> 01:28:45,180
and I love America but whatever you guys

2089
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:48,060
do we do and whatever Britain does we do

2090
01:28:53,900 --> 01:28:50,810
as well is you know New Zealand Canada

2091
01:28:55,700 --> 01:28:53,910
America Britain all of us guys together

2092
01:28:58,910 --> 01:28:55,710
on on whatever and we're going to tend

2093
01:29:03,560 --> 01:28:58,920
to follow you guys up there we've had

2094
01:29:05,180 --> 01:29:03,570
blue broken sign and and grudge and you

2095
01:29:06,590 --> 01:29:05,190
know all the in the con on report and

2096
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:06,600
all these other things that America have

2097
01:29:12,970 --> 01:29:09,810
done and still you know Jimmy Carter try

2098
01:29:18,350 --> 01:29:12,980
getting a lot done here in Australia

2099
01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:18,360
we've been very I've noted we've been

2100
01:29:22,010 --> 01:29:20,340
very much the same as you guys that we

2101
01:29:24,770 --> 01:29:22,020
haven't had like an open thing like Blue

2102
01:29:26,630 --> 01:29:24,780
Book we have taken there is proof that

2103
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:26,640
we had taken reports I've got the papers

2104
01:29:29,330 --> 01:29:28,080
to shout and everything else and it came

2105
01:29:31,250 --> 01:29:29,340
from the government archives funny

2106
01:29:33,850 --> 01:29:31,260
enough we've had a lot of papers on the

2107
01:29:36,500 --> 01:29:33,860
UFO phenomena go missing from the

2108
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:36,510
government archives which was on

2109
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:38,250
national Morning News who on the same

2110
01:29:42,020 --> 01:29:40,110
Charles on sunrise I think with Bill

2111
01:29:44,450 --> 01:29:42,030
talk were talking about it he's done a

2112
01:29:46,010 --> 01:29:44,460
lot of work here for years but you know

2113
01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:46,020
I attend the distinct you know

2114
01:29:50,510 --> 01:29:48,480
especially with myself I just look nuts

2115
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:50,520
a lot of the time so they quite happy

2116
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:51,840
made of spare what everyone want to

2117
01:29:55,190 --> 01:29:53,520
spare because I just look crazy though I

2118
01:29:56,930 --> 01:29:55,200
have had black helicopters and gray

2119
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:56,940
stealth helicopter activity around me

2120
01:30:01,130 --> 01:29:58,050
which people have witnessed for no

2121
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:01,140
reason this stuff appearing and I've

2122
01:30:04,610 --> 01:30:02,610
spoken to some people that have been

2123
01:30:07,550 --> 01:30:04,620
part of these projects they know what's

2124
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:07,560
going on again you know people say a lot

2125
01:30:11,930 --> 01:30:09,510
of you know we hear the stupid story

2126
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:11,940
lately that arm it was the government

2127
01:30:16,220 --> 01:30:13,770
that had this flying saucer or it was a

2128
01:30:18,050 --> 01:30:16,230
loon or some crap from from pouring up

2129
01:30:20,570 --> 01:30:18,060
in the middle of Australia that you know

2130
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:20,580
200 students and teachers witness tool

2131
01:30:25,070 --> 01:30:22,710
room land at West all school

2132
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:25,080
in 1966 which to me is one of the

2133
01:30:29,420 --> 01:30:27,690
biggest stories ever and why did I do

2134
01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:29,430
rock up and tell kids that they didn't

2135
01:30:33,890 --> 01:30:30,750
see what they see and this has been

2136
01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:33,900
investigated thoroughly so we have had

2137
01:30:37,970 --> 01:30:36,030
some cases like that in the Frederick

2138
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:37,980
Valentich case where he was in heels a

2139
01:30:44,420 --> 01:30:41,280
pilot flying at a bass trade area and

2140
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:44,430
there's radio we call recordings from

2141
01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:46,320
the control tower to him and he's seeing

2142
01:30:51,860 --> 01:30:48,360
this metallic object and then all of a

2143
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:51,870
sudden he goes missing we hear about

2144
01:30:56,930 --> 01:30:53,730
these types of cases but there's a lot

2145
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,940
more going on but it seems that not many

2146
01:30:59,690 --> 01:30:58,320
people are wanting to cover it unless

2147
01:31:02,120 --> 01:30:59,700
it's sort of something that's up in the

2148
01:31:03,770 --> 01:31:02,130
air I think they did a mistake when they

2149
01:31:06,050 --> 01:31:03,780
had my humble is I just thought of some

2150
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:06,060
extra power that was just off his nut

2151
01:31:10,190 --> 01:31:08,130
and then I could sort of bring some fact

2152
01:31:12,380 --> 01:31:10,200
and in footage and things to the to the

2153
01:31:14,150 --> 01:31:12,390
subject and nobody will have a borrowed

2154
01:31:17,570 --> 01:31:14,160
machine which I'm quite cool with

2155
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:17,580
because I don't care about that but the

2156
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:20,370
government I think here's the thing with

2157
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,690
the government I think they don't have a

2158
01:31:24,470 --> 01:31:23,040
clue what's going on but at the same

2159
01:31:28,459 --> 01:31:24,480
time they've got an idea

2160
01:31:31,340 --> 01:31:28,469
in terms of just like America you've got

2161
01:31:33,229 --> 01:31:31,350
things can come in your airspace that

2162
01:31:37,070 --> 01:31:33,239
you've got no control over they can

2163
01:31:38,690 --> 01:31:37,080
blink in that can blink out now if it

2164
01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:38,700
was something that was completely 3d

2165
01:31:40,910 --> 01:31:40,320
maybe there's something you could do

2166
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:40,920
about it

2167
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:44,310
but when you've got stuff that can you

2168
01:31:48,170 --> 01:31:46,050
know and it's not just coming from zero

2169
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:48,180
reticular or the Pleiades and the future

2170
01:31:52,729 --> 01:31:49,770
coming back as nothing can exist in the

2171
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:52,739
Pleiades at the moment because it's not

2172
01:31:55,370 --> 01:31:54,239
involved probably the star systems and

2173
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:55,380
everything there it's in the future

2174
01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:57,690
these beings are coming from what the

2175
01:32:00,680 --> 01:31:59,040
hell do you do with this and what the

2176
01:32:02,990 --> 01:32:00,690
hell do you do when these beings are

2177
01:32:05,450 --> 01:32:03,000
using interdimensional technology to

2178
01:32:06,979 --> 01:32:05,460
travel to point A to point B coming from

2179
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:06,989
completely other realms that star

2180
01:32:10,910 --> 01:32:09,090
systems and all that don't even exist in

2181
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:10,920
and I've experienced some of these

2182
01:32:14,959 --> 01:32:13,170
realms and there is no friggin reference

2183
01:32:16,700 --> 01:32:14,969
now some of the realms I've experienced

2184
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:16,710
there are still star systems or whatnot

2185
01:32:21,050 --> 01:32:18,570
but some of it doesn't now how do you

2186
01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:21,060
tell the people these and this is where

2187
01:32:24,380 --> 01:32:22,590
these things are coming and going

2188
01:32:25,729 --> 01:32:24,390
there's multiple agendas there's

2189
01:32:27,350 --> 01:32:25,739
multiple reasons they're not just a

2190
01:32:29,540 --> 01:32:27,360
tease they're not just from other realms

2191
01:32:31,550 --> 01:32:29,550
some of this I believe is being created

2192
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:31,560
by people's own thoughts they're saying

2193
01:32:34,790 --> 01:32:32,610
some of these stuff just like

2194
01:32:37,459 --> 01:32:34,800
poltergeist and hora strangest activity

2195
01:32:41,209 --> 01:32:37,469
I think some people are creating it

2196
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:41,219
I can't prove this is just from what my

2197
01:32:45,169 --> 01:32:42,690
understanding is in the nature of

2198
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:45,179
reality but you know what does the

2199
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:46,800
government do and I can understand this

2200
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:49,130
and at the end of the day I don't think

2201
01:32:53,180 --> 01:32:51,329
people need to know what I know and

2202
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:53,190
others know and I don't know not even 1%

2203
01:32:56,299 --> 01:32:54,690
air over trillion percent of what's

2204
01:32:57,620 --> 01:32:56,309
going on but as long as people treat

2205
01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:57,630
each other like they want to be treated

2206
01:33:02,029 --> 01:33:00,239
with respect and would give the shirt

2207
01:33:03,620 --> 01:33:02,039
off their back to a fellow human being I

2208
01:33:06,259 --> 01:33:03,630
don't think those type of people need to

2209
01:33:09,259 --> 01:33:06,269
know because I think they live in their

2210
01:33:11,390 --> 01:33:09,269
beliefs did they're good people you know

2211
01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:11,400
and but what doesn't need the change is

2212
01:33:15,589 --> 01:33:13,440
here we treat each other as humanity

2213
01:33:18,259 --> 01:33:15,599
that's something that needs to change in

2214
01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:18,269
you know at the same time don't even

2215
01:33:23,419 --> 01:33:20,159
think if the ETA reality or the other

2216
01:33:24,649 --> 01:33:23,429
roles being revealed to humanity if that

2217
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:24,659
happened I don't even think that would

2218
01:33:28,339 --> 01:33:26,729
be enough to change it and if it did

2219
01:33:30,140 --> 01:33:28,349
happen old question the agenda behind

2220
01:33:33,859 --> 01:33:30,150
the agenda of letting this be known in

2221
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:33,869
the first place you know so this is

2222
01:33:39,949 --> 01:33:37,050
where you know people want to talk about

2223
01:33:41,750 --> 01:33:39,959
18l all not used the word 18 UFO to grab

2224
01:33:43,939 --> 01:33:41,760
people's attention with my website my

2225
01:33:46,399 --> 01:33:43,949
footage but the truth of the matter is

2226
01:33:48,259 --> 01:33:46,409
this stuff is so far out there that ata

2227
01:33:50,779 --> 01:33:48,269
is not even 1% of what the hell's going

2228
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:50,789
on and each day I've opened up more and

2229
01:33:56,109 --> 01:33:53,610
more to other concepts and other

2230
01:33:58,399 --> 01:33:56,119
realities that what I've learned from

2231
01:34:00,620 --> 01:33:58,409
myself with my experiences is some of

2232
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:00,630
the information are lies to understand a

2233
01:34:05,239 --> 01:34:03,570
greater concept and this is how the

2234
01:34:06,770 --> 01:34:05,249
beings have to work sometimes because

2235
01:34:09,259 --> 01:34:06,780
we've got preconceived notions and the

2236
01:34:10,850 --> 01:34:09,269
body computer program such a way it's

2237
01:34:13,279 --> 01:34:10,860
like you have to be giving it being

2238
01:34:14,839 --> 01:34:13,289
given mind-bending information just to

2239
01:34:17,060 --> 01:34:14,849
expand you a little bit and then I say

2240
01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:17,070
right now that you get that now can hit

2241
01:34:21,020 --> 01:34:19,679
you up with this and a lot of the times

2242
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:21,030
I'll be asked how could how can I

2243
01:34:25,009 --> 01:34:23,010
believe the information or or what I'm

2244
01:34:26,810 --> 01:34:25,019
being told and it's quite simple is to

2245
01:34:29,779 --> 01:34:26,820
fruit that comes from that knowledge if

2246
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:29,789
it helps me evolve to become a help me

2247
01:34:34,459 --> 01:34:32,010
to understand myself and want to be

2248
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:34,469
better and to help others and I

2249
01:34:38,839 --> 01:34:36,449
understand oneness I think that's part

2250
01:34:40,339 --> 01:34:38,849
of a positive nature if it's not it

2251
01:34:41,689 --> 01:34:40,349
could be a trickster intelligence it

2252
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:41,699
could be something you know quite

2253
01:34:47,870 --> 01:34:45,329
self-serving you know it's different

2254
01:34:49,660 --> 01:34:47,880
ways you can go with this and I don't

2255
01:34:51,790 --> 01:34:49,670
expect anybody to believe

2256
01:34:53,410 --> 01:34:51,800
I've got to say I decided to put the

2257
01:34:55,870 --> 01:34:53,420
information out and he'll always get the

2258
01:34:57,820 --> 01:34:55,880
information out because it's you know

2259
01:34:59,770 --> 01:34:57,830
I've been helped by some other people

2260
01:35:01,419 --> 01:34:59,780
with what they've said and if I can do

2261
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:01,429
the same back to others that you know

2262
01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:03,050
one day at least you need to be show or

2263
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:05,360
another and you know and help them

2264
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:07,760
that's where the payoff is and I believe

2265
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:09,530
we're doing that you know subconsciously

2266
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:11,530
all the time with each other hmm

2267
01:35:18,820 --> 01:35:14,719
very good a question up on the message

2268
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:18,830
board Bobby wants to know what do you

2269
01:35:23,610 --> 01:35:21,050
think they want with you or what are

2270
01:35:26,050 --> 01:35:23,620
they what do you think they're doing

2271
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:26,060
again it comes down to multiple agendas

2272
01:35:29,530 --> 01:35:27,650
it's like when somebody talks about the

2273
01:35:35,550 --> 01:35:29,540
gradual looks like what way cigars are

2274
01:35:38,410 --> 01:35:35,560
you talking about now is there's

2275
01:35:40,660 --> 01:35:38,420
different races and different types of

2276
01:35:43,209 --> 01:35:40,670
beings that I'm interacting with now the

2277
01:35:45,250 --> 01:35:43,219
younger white actually looking ones from

2278
01:35:47,229 --> 01:35:45,260
I understand you or what I can the only

2279
01:35:50,050 --> 01:35:47,239
described to you as a council of a whole

2280
01:35:52,810 --> 01:35:50,060
in terms of these beings can go

2281
01:35:58,060 --> 01:35:52,820
throughout any vibration any plane and

2282
01:36:00,010 --> 01:35:58,070
they work for basically a top not agenda

2283
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:00,020
but it's just something that that

2284
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:03,890
oversees everything they then still free

2285
01:36:08,380 --> 01:36:05,600
will and everything but these guys sort

2286
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:08,390
of just monitor stuff and they pop they

2287
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:11,810
still pop in and see me there are white

2288
01:36:14,590 --> 01:36:13,310
I'm just looking it's almost like you I

2289
01:36:16,810 --> 01:36:14,600
should see your red and you touch the

2290
01:36:19,180 --> 01:36:16,820
ash it's like that effect but it's more

2291
01:36:20,740 --> 01:36:19,190
wide than a gray or a black in it it's

2292
01:36:22,930 --> 01:36:20,750
all white but it's got that sort of

2293
01:36:25,450 --> 01:36:22,940
texture to it I've seen these things

2294
01:36:26,890 --> 01:36:25,460
with polls open up during the friggin

2295
01:36:28,419 --> 01:36:26,900
day and duck their head in and look at

2296
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:28,429
me and then pop out and the sock did I

2297
01:36:32,650 --> 01:36:31,250
just say that there's other bangs for

2298
01:36:34,620 --> 01:36:32,660
example one of the bangs I interact with

2299
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:34,630
who said she was from the play days

2300
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:37,070
she's actually from the star my rope in

2301
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:38,510
the play days and I've been told lately

2302
01:36:42,850 --> 01:36:40,489
she's a gatekeeper of that poll there

2303
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:42,860
which all stars in all sons of portals

2304
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:45,530
but it they talk about keys of knowledge

2305
01:36:49,930 --> 01:36:47,690
and the keys of knowledge will allow you

2306
01:36:52,660 --> 01:36:49,940
access to the higher realms that so pass

2307
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,670
star systems and Suns and and all that

2308
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:54,320
sort of physicality stuff that we see

2309
01:36:58,120 --> 01:36:55,370
here within this universe

2310
01:36:59,410 --> 01:36:58,130
so the to grant access to certain realms

2311
01:37:01,549 --> 01:36:59,420
you need a higher level of consciousness

2312
01:37:03,739 --> 01:37:01,559
which we all have but

2313
01:37:05,329 --> 01:37:03,749
tapping into it I'm known as better than

2314
01:37:08,119 --> 01:37:05,339
anyone else from my understanding from

2315
01:37:09,859 --> 01:37:08,129
this information it's all about us being

2316
01:37:11,329 --> 01:37:09,869
set up coming here at this time to help

2317
01:37:13,969 --> 01:37:11,339
humanity push forward

2318
01:37:16,729 --> 01:37:13,979
I've been shown information how we're a

2319
01:37:18,139 --> 01:37:16,739
mixture of a certain evolved beings and

2320
01:37:20,299 --> 01:37:18,149
that doing what we've done here will

2321
01:37:22,489 --> 01:37:20,309
create on a project intimating with one

2322
01:37:24,979 --> 01:37:22,499
another to basically create super beings

2323
01:37:26,449 --> 01:37:24,989
within the 3d realm from my

2324
01:37:28,609 --> 01:37:26,459
understanding there's stuff that we can

2325
01:37:29,869 --> 01:37:28,619
do that other beings can't do and some

2326
01:37:32,209 --> 01:37:29,879
of the jealous

2327
01:37:33,589 --> 01:37:32,219
for example reptilians they can only do

2328
01:37:36,559 --> 01:37:33,599
thought transfer up to a certain

2329
01:37:38,989 --> 01:37:36,569
distance or a certain room fortunately

2330
01:37:41,869 --> 01:37:38,999
they say us in the body computer we are

2331
01:37:45,049 --> 01:37:41,879
unbounded in what we can do like that

2332
01:37:46,669 --> 01:37:45,059
but we don't know it and we hear these

2333
01:37:49,009 --> 01:37:46,679
things about free energy this and that

2334
01:37:50,509 --> 01:37:49,019
you know we're not ready for it well we

2335
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:50,519
are ready for it if we had a higher

2336
01:37:55,909 --> 01:37:52,169
level of consciousness with a higher

2337
01:37:58,609 --> 01:37:55,919
level of consciousness we surpass the

2338
01:38:00,199 --> 01:37:58,619
limitations we've got here some of the

2339
01:38:02,179 --> 01:38:00,209
crafts of bending and this being called

2340
01:38:04,009 --> 01:38:02,189
herself Shoji and she first appeared as

2341
01:38:06,579 --> 01:38:04,019
a female being some people have seen

2342
01:38:10,299 --> 01:38:06,589
least being with me and now she pees a

2343
01:38:12,919 --> 01:38:10,309
lot of the time in my mind's eye but

2344
01:38:14,779 --> 01:38:12,929
I've been on cross with her with the

2345
01:38:16,459 --> 01:38:14,789
crafts and the other beings are white

2346
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:16,469
light beings with the tinge of blue and

2347
01:38:22,959 --> 01:38:19,199
there's the craft appears as a saucer

2348
01:38:25,339 --> 01:38:22,969
but everything's alight and this is how

2349
01:38:27,829 --> 01:38:25,349
they created was through thought

2350
01:38:29,449 --> 01:38:27,839
transfer as a group as a collective now

2351
01:38:31,699 --> 01:38:29,459
people say why the light beings need a

2352
01:38:33,770 --> 01:38:31,709
crowd fools to protect them when they're

2353
01:38:35,719 --> 01:38:33,780
together from other vibrations from my

2354
01:38:36,919 --> 01:38:35,729
understanding and I can understand any

2355
01:38:38,179 --> 01:38:36,929
questions people have got because I've

2356
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:38,189
got more than what they've got because

2357
01:38:43,309 --> 01:38:40,489
the more I learn the more I want to know

2358
01:38:46,699 --> 01:38:43,319
there's been feline type beings from

2359
01:38:49,099 --> 01:38:46,709
Sirius that I interact with there are

2360
01:38:52,279 --> 01:38:49,109
light blue light beings which have said

2361
01:38:53,449 --> 01:38:52,289
that they're elohim but that they're not

2362
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:53,459
even that but that's the terminology

2363
01:38:56,569 --> 01:38:54,719
we'll give them and that they're not

2364
01:38:58,849 --> 01:38:56,579
gods or but the closest thing we've got

2365
01:39:00,739 --> 01:38:58,859
reference to his angels i've recently

2366
01:39:02,869 --> 01:39:00,749
had experiences where I've been taking

2367
01:39:05,179 --> 01:39:02,879
the geometric realms and there's being

2368
01:39:07,069 --> 01:39:05,189
geometric Bane's and this is basically

2369
01:39:08,869 --> 01:39:07,079
why above the angelic realm and there's

2370
01:39:12,549 --> 01:39:08,879
even being said how far these beings are

2371
01:39:14,809 --> 01:39:12,559
from us are above them so each time

2372
01:39:15,379 --> 01:39:14,819
something's happening to me lately it's

2373
01:39:19,069 --> 01:39:15,389
been

2374
01:39:20,750 --> 01:39:19,079
what I think I know and now I'm just

2375
01:39:22,729 --> 01:39:20,760
willing to accept I don't know a friggin

2376
01:39:25,729 --> 01:39:22,739
theme because the more my experience has

2377
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:25,739
happened the more I learn I don't know

2378
01:39:30,140 --> 01:39:28,050
and that you know I laugh at a lot of

2379
01:39:31,609 --> 01:39:30,150
these researchers and everyone else they

2380
01:39:33,859 --> 01:39:31,619
claim to know that they've got all the

2381
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:33,869
answers I'll had people engineers in

2382
01:39:37,339 --> 01:39:35,610
America that think they know it all and

2383
01:39:39,049 --> 01:39:37,349
then they come and talk to men and what

2384
01:39:40,580 --> 01:39:39,059
ye talking to me if you know it all and

2385
01:39:42,859 --> 01:39:40,590
then a week later contact me again in

2386
01:39:44,780 --> 01:39:42,869
gone geez I thought I knew it all but

2387
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:44,790
paid this happen and I laugh because

2388
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:46,650
that's exactly what happens we don't

2389
01:39:50,689 --> 01:39:49,199
know what's going on there's people like

2390
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:50,699
Mary world war who's two or three

2391
01:39:55,310 --> 01:39:52,530
thousand people she's had his clients

2392
01:39:58,580 --> 01:39:55,320
now and we've got people like this Boyle

2393
01:40:00,260 --> 01:39:58,590
I know in Solomon parks who's a council

2394
01:40:02,359 --> 01:40:00,270
or something for the government the

2395
01:40:05,060 --> 01:40:02,369
Labour Party I think in in a in England

2396
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:05,070
who I've had a macho and these kid are

2397
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,570
these guys understand each other in

2398
01:40:10,459 --> 01:40:08,400
Mantid language and all these sort of

2399
01:40:11,089 --> 01:40:10,469
stuff there's so much cross correlating

2400
01:40:13,370 --> 01:40:11,099
things

2401
01:40:15,620 --> 01:40:13,380
My partner story to speak star language

2402
01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:15,630
and and talks to people and they

2403
01:40:19,459 --> 01:40:17,159
understand what she's saying she

2404
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:19,469
understands them now there's all these

2405
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:21,210
different things going on it and the

2406
01:40:24,260 --> 01:40:22,650
amount of beings I've interacted with I

2407
01:40:26,419 --> 01:40:24,270
can't even tell you how many there are

2408
01:40:29,450 --> 01:40:26,429
now but it seems that the more you

2409
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:29,460
awaken the more you'll you'll interact

2410
01:40:34,010 --> 01:40:32,159
with now I'm not awake it's like one eye

2411
01:40:37,069 --> 01:40:34,020
was open one millimeter just starting to

2412
01:40:40,189 --> 01:40:37,079
open and I'm starting to to wake up to

2413
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:40,199
to who I am and if you talk to enough

2414
01:40:43,700 --> 01:40:42,090
experiences behind the scenes and even

2415
01:40:45,169 --> 01:40:43,710
some researchers and you gotta ask

2416
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:45,179
researchers why they're doing what

2417
01:40:48,410 --> 01:40:46,290
they're doing is a lot of the time

2418
01:40:49,939 --> 01:40:48,420
they've had experiences a lot of the

2419
01:40:50,540 --> 01:40:49,949
time do you get them off mark bother

2420
01:40:52,399 --> 01:40:50,550
themself

2421
01:40:54,260 --> 01:40:52,409
you pull into a corner of the room and

2422
01:40:55,490 --> 01:40:54,270
you go why the hell you researching this

2423
01:40:57,319 --> 01:40:55,500
and you've been doing it for 40 years

2424
01:40:58,910 --> 01:40:57,329
you'll find out that they've had an

2425
01:41:01,129 --> 01:40:58,920
experience and what a lot of this is

2426
01:41:04,250 --> 01:41:01,139
about is about who you are individually

2427
01:41:06,500 --> 01:41:04,260
and who we are as a collective not just

2428
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:06,510
here on earth but universally and beyond

2429
01:41:12,410 --> 01:41:09,690
and that's why people like me are having

2430
01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:12,420
experiences and other people we're not

2431
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:14,880
special but we've got intent and we've

2432
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:16,290
had something happen enough where we

2433
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,570
wake up to a purpose of being here and

2434
01:41:22,250 --> 01:41:20,880
while we do what we do a lot of people

2435
01:41:24,260 --> 01:41:22,260
are doing stuff they don't know why

2436
01:41:26,359 --> 01:41:24,270
they're doing it and it's in in service

2437
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:26,369
mode now some of these people can't

2438
01:41:29,820 --> 01:41:27,520
handle the reality on

2439
01:41:31,050 --> 01:41:29,830
no you know people who've been around me

2440
01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:31,060
and I said they could handle an

2441
01:41:36,060 --> 01:41:33,630
experience and they've had an experience

2442
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:36,070
their life is going to crap for quite

2443
01:41:39,540 --> 01:41:38,110
some time because I said to him be

2444
01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:39,550
careful what you wish for and I've seen

2445
01:41:44,850 --> 01:41:43,120
a brand grow my room and they're lost

2446
01:41:46,590 --> 01:41:44,860
they cracked because they thought they

2447
01:41:48,030 --> 01:41:46,600
could handle it and they couldn't so

2448
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:48,040
this is where a lot of this has got to

2449
01:41:51,780 --> 01:41:50,470
do with intent and really noticing your

2450
01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:51,790
thoughts and where they're coming from

2451
01:41:56,910 --> 01:41:54,700
that I've learned in the later years

2452
01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:56,920
lately from from my experience it's just

2453
01:42:03,180 --> 01:41:58,330
like I know when to go outside to see

2454
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:03,190
crafters is it's taken me places and in

2455
01:42:09,480 --> 01:42:07,750
realms of thoughts and ideas that you

2456
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:09,490
know is this stuff that I you know some

2457
01:42:13,350 --> 01:42:11,710
of I consider you know I question my

2458
01:42:14,580 --> 01:42:13,360
sanity sometimes but you know when I'm

2459
01:42:17,250 --> 01:42:14,590
filming these stuff and people are

2460
01:42:20,670 --> 01:42:17,260
witnessing it with me in my own home and

2461
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:20,680
and wherever I go and then they start

2462
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:22,480
having experiences too you know this is

2463
01:42:26,700 --> 01:42:24,730
where you got to go you know some days

2464
01:42:28,140 --> 01:42:26,710
you got to lose you crap because you

2465
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:28,150
just can't function and some days you

2466
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:30,610
just get on with it but it you know so

2467
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:34,810
quite a wild ride right question up on

2468
01:42:38,730 --> 01:42:36,850
the message board going all the way back

2469
01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:38,740
when you're talking about the ashen or

2470
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:43,720
the that color what what to someone

2471
01:42:52,410 --> 01:42:45,010
wants to know what those particular

2472
01:42:56,190 --> 01:42:52,420
beings looked like I had tawny tawny

2473
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:56,200
tawny noses I don't even think if you

2474
01:42:59,640 --> 01:42:57,250
looked at him quickly you wouldn't maybe

2475
01:43:01,320 --> 01:42:59,650
say it he's just walking the reason why

2476
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:01,330
I know these in detail is because always

2477
01:43:04,140 --> 01:43:02,650
to wake up to these friggin things

2478
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:04,150
standing over me in bed when I was eight

2479
01:43:09,150 --> 01:43:06,010
years old between eight and twelve I've

2480
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:09,160
narrowed it down to anyway they've got

2481
01:43:15,870 --> 01:43:11,410
more of a you know how a human heads

2482
01:43:17,730 --> 01:43:15,880
oval like it's that shape I've seen

2483
01:43:21,390 --> 01:43:17,740
other ones that almost have a head like

2484
01:43:23,310 --> 01:43:21,400
Roger of American Dad but their brand

2485
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:23,320
their these are what I will refer to

2486
01:43:26,820 --> 01:43:25,210
news the Orion grow so the tall ones

2487
01:43:29,220 --> 01:43:26,830
about five foot like that but these guys

2488
01:43:30,750 --> 01:43:29,230
there's about four or five and a half

2489
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:30,760
foot ones and then ones that are up

2490
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:33,010
around a seven foot and their shape

2491
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:35,290
isn't that like a human head almost like

2492
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:37,930
an oval and the eyes would be probably

2493
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:39,760
two times the size of our eyes and

2494
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:41,170
completely black

2495
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:43,360
very small mouth you could publish up to

2496
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:45,250
fingers in their mouth and that would be

2497
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:48,610
like ramming it in there if I grabbed

2498
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:50,320
their arm it's like I could just push

2499
01:43:57,540 --> 01:43:54,850
with my thumb and snap it very thin

2500
01:44:00,030 --> 01:43:57,550
there has been locking it with these

2501
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:00,040
guys and the brand guys is sometimes

2502
01:44:05,370 --> 01:44:02,800
been almost like an alcohol smell not

2503
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:05,380
like booze but you know like first aid

2504
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:10,330
alcohol but makes me something else and

2505
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:12,250
I feel is something natural like a

2506
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:14,170
flower or a plant but I can't put my

2507
01:44:18,710 --> 01:44:17,050
finger on it um but that's just what my

2508
01:44:20,850 --> 01:44:18,720
mind is telling me when we're not even

2509
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:20,860
obvious about this smell and I'm trying

2510
01:44:26,490 --> 01:44:21,910
to figure out what the hell it's like

2511
01:44:30,510 --> 01:44:26,500
but I can't exactly there's no private

2512
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:30,520
parts or anything it's just I don't know

2513
01:44:34,830 --> 01:44:33,250
like these ones are intelligence they

2514
01:44:36,690 --> 01:44:34,840
got their own consciousness I know other

2515
01:44:38,430 --> 01:44:36,700
ones have been created but they're

2516
01:44:40,380 --> 01:44:38,440
they're different

2517
01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:40,390
you saw you almost get a robotic feel

2518
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:41,590
from some of them are some of them

2519
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:43,090
they've got their own intelligence

2520
01:44:45,300 --> 01:44:44,410
they've almost got a sense of humor

2521
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:45,310
which style project we thought

2522
01:44:57,780 --> 01:44:55,770
oh yeah more than half of what I talk

2523
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:57,790
about is while I'm awake like now and a

2524
01:45:03,330 --> 01:44:59,920
lot of it has been during the day this

2525
01:45:08,970 --> 01:45:03,340
is not stuff I would say for 10% of

2526
01:45:11,460 --> 01:45:08,980
stuff is when I wake up at night like

2527
01:45:14,150 --> 01:45:11,470
like I can't even put a percentage OH

2528
01:45:17,370 --> 01:45:14,160
even when 80% of this is during the day

2529
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:17,380
and I've logged everything the best that

2530
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:18,570
I can in my books

2531
01:45:22,500 --> 01:45:21,040
so this is where what's happening to me

2532
01:45:23,970 --> 01:45:22,510
is different with others and again that

2533
01:45:26,730 --> 01:45:23,980
I've got witness testimony and that to

2534
01:45:28,710 --> 01:45:26,740
people experiencing this stuff with me

2535
01:45:31,740 --> 01:45:28,720
they each one photo on the front page of

2536
01:45:34,140 --> 01:45:31,750
my website where you can see this misty

2537
01:45:36,930 --> 01:45:34,150
sort of stuff and Anna Gray's face in it

2538
01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:36,940
a lot of the time now I'll have the

2539
01:45:41,250 --> 01:45:38,950
crafts land in my bedroom at night wake

2540
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:41,260
up and these bangs are almost like an

2541
01:45:46,140 --> 01:45:43,810
apparition I'm even when I've been out

2542
01:45:48,420 --> 01:45:46,150
sky watching whether you used UV cameras

2543
01:45:50,910 --> 01:45:48,430
infrared cameras cameras with the flash

2544
01:45:52,590 --> 01:45:50,920
cameras without the flash to try and get

2545
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:52,600
some of these when this happen is

2546
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:54,090
nothing were

2547
01:45:59,089 --> 01:45:57,330
or it just can't be captured but I

2548
01:46:00,350 --> 01:45:59,099
didn't want to talk about this for a

2549
01:46:02,270 --> 01:46:00,360
while and I've only started recently

2550
01:46:04,820 --> 01:46:02,280
talking about it but what it's like is

2551
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:04,830
if you see in a full-blown apparition

2552
01:46:10,459 --> 01:46:06,690
and if you can imagine that as an actual

2553
01:46:12,589 --> 01:46:10,469
craft whether it's Paul shade this cigar

2554
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:12,599
shape whatever shape it is and you can

2555
01:46:16,430 --> 01:46:14,820
imagine that landing on you this is what

2556
01:46:19,310 --> 01:46:16,440
happens a lot of the time you aren't

2557
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:19,320
taken to other star systems or anything

2558
01:46:24,050 --> 01:46:21,840
a craft will land on you

2559
01:46:27,589 --> 01:46:24,060
somehow they bar bait you into their

2560
01:46:30,050 --> 01:46:27,599
field into their vibration and it will

2561
01:46:32,649 --> 01:46:30,060
appear as physical as this reality now

2562
01:46:34,729 --> 01:46:32,659
and then they'll put you back in bed

2563
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:34,739
really without taking you anywhere

2564
01:46:37,970 --> 01:46:36,449
they've just landed on you they vibrated

2565
01:46:39,830 --> 01:46:37,980
you out done what they need to do or

2566
01:46:42,350 --> 01:46:39,840
interact with you and however they need

2567
01:46:44,510 --> 01:46:42,360
to do and then you're vibrated back

2568
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:44,520
funny enough when I did start talking

2569
01:46:49,459 --> 01:46:46,080
about these some people have told me

2570
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:49,469
that the Native Americans in America the

2571
01:46:55,580 --> 01:46:52,080
Indians have talked about a similar

2572
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:55,590
thing and even tribute stuff later on

2573
01:46:58,609 --> 01:46:56,880
that I started to experience and

2574
01:47:00,290 --> 01:46:58,619
continue to this day sometimes I'll be

2575
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:00,300
filming the craft and I'm on the craft

2576
01:47:05,959 --> 01:47:04,320
looking down at myself and talking to

2577
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:05,969
I'm not talking about hearing dr. gray

2578
01:47:11,540 --> 01:47:09,690
and others as of late they've described

2579
01:47:13,700 --> 01:47:11,550
similar things that they experienced

2580
01:47:15,709 --> 01:47:13,710
when they're having an experience now

2581
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:15,719
whether that's another facet of you

2582
01:47:19,609 --> 01:47:17,520
which I tend to believe sometimes is on

2583
01:47:21,410 --> 01:47:19,619
the craft looking at yourself or whether

2584
01:47:23,540 --> 01:47:21,420
they're sending the thought transfer in

2585
01:47:26,270 --> 01:47:23,550
that projection to your mind to say that

2586
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:26,280
that's another you know that's up for

2587
01:47:30,140 --> 01:47:27,570
debate as well just like the almost

2588
01:47:32,270 --> 01:47:30,150
every single thing I'm I'm stating here

2589
01:47:33,589 --> 01:47:32,280
because again I'm happy to say I can't

2590
01:47:34,879 --> 01:47:33,599
prove all this I've got a hell of a lot

2591
01:47:37,729 --> 01:47:34,889
of footage and a lot of witnesses but

2592
01:47:41,390 --> 01:47:37,739
again if I could prove this or Billy

2593
01:47:42,830 --> 01:47:41,400
Mayer I could all that Antonio that

2594
01:47:44,180 --> 01:47:42,840
Italian bloke with the awesome footage

2595
01:47:45,379 --> 01:47:44,190
he's got if we could prove this we

2596
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:45,389
wouldn't be sitting here having this

2597
01:47:50,060 --> 01:47:47,760
conversation so this is where I expect

2598
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:50,070
the skepticism but this is stuff that

2599
01:47:54,260 --> 01:47:52,650
you know remember before I was talking

2600
01:47:56,030 --> 01:47:54,270
about how some people experience stuff

2601
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:56,040
but won't talk about the real fire ant

2602
01:48:00,169 --> 01:47:58,080
stuff that's one of the things that

2603
01:48:02,740 --> 01:48:00,179
aspire to me that I'm on the craft

2604
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:02,750
sometimes is on film in the craft

2605
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:05,040
sometimes I'm getting full blind thought

2606
01:48:09,410 --> 01:48:07,170
transitory communication with it

2607
01:48:12,230 --> 01:48:09,420
I've got that many people that witness

2608
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:12,240
we go they're here right now and we go

2609
01:48:15,650 --> 01:48:13,890
out in the crafts are there exactly when

2610
01:48:17,090 --> 01:48:15,660
I say and it's not like I'm summoning

2611
01:48:19,970 --> 01:48:17,100
you it's just like as if I've been

2612
01:48:21,980 --> 01:48:19,980
called to go outside and it's you know

2613
01:48:23,660 --> 01:48:21,990
and I can put the thought out as well

2614
01:48:26,660 --> 01:48:23,670
now if they walk up it's another thing

2615
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:26,670
it's just like if I like you takes me

2616
01:48:30,050 --> 01:48:28,290
yesterday to see them I'll come on the

2617
01:48:31,550 --> 01:48:30,060
show either I can or Akana

2618
01:48:33,740 --> 01:48:31,560
it's just like that with these guys if

2619
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:33,750
they're in the vicinity if they can they

2620
01:48:38,450 --> 01:48:36,570
can you know do that you know they can

2621
01:48:40,970 --> 01:48:38,460
if they can't they can't and this is why

2622
01:48:43,220 --> 01:48:40,980
I'm very skeptical about you know what

2623
01:48:45,140 --> 01:48:43,230
people call summoning and all that sort

2624
01:48:46,970 --> 01:48:45,150
of thing because there is a two-way

2625
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:46,980
dialogue and once you start to

2626
01:48:52,370 --> 01:48:50,370
understand that and you know these

2627
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:52,380
things aren't just eat here it's far

2628
01:48:56,030 --> 01:48:54,480
beyond that a lot of what people are

2629
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:56,040
interacting with the other facets of

2630
01:49:01,310 --> 01:48:58,080
themself which I've learnt in the last

2631
01:49:05,090 --> 01:49:01,320
year that's where you go on another

2632
01:49:08,750 --> 01:49:05,100
tangent of trying to absorb this because

2633
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:08,760
it makes dat scenario very smaller the

2634
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:10,890
whole process of trying to understand

2635
01:49:20,870 --> 01:49:15,090
these right fred was asking earlier can

2636
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:20,880
you describe star language I know a

2637
01:49:26,630 --> 01:49:23,520
couple of words which I've started to do

2638
01:49:29,050 --> 01:49:26,640
it freaks me out but um hi a car

2639
01:49:31,730 --> 01:49:29,060
now that's something that I've got and

2640
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:31,740
it's got to do with so I'm sort of

2641
01:49:38,660 --> 01:49:34,050
awakening thing in a turban Orion but

2642
01:49:41,710 --> 01:49:38,670
what I could do now is I could probably

2643
01:49:44,180 --> 01:49:41,720
get up a audio clip of my partner

2644
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:44,190
talking styling which but I don't I

2645
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:45,450
don't know for sure because I haven't

2646
01:49:50,510 --> 01:49:46,890
got it on my computer I'll have to go on

2647
01:49:51,590 --> 01:49:50,520
the internet but if you can go and type

2648
01:49:57,950 --> 01:49:51,600
in songwriter

2649
01:49:59,840 --> 01:49:57,960
it's o lr8 a a in styling weed or so

2650
01:50:01,520 --> 01:49:59,850
later psychic her website will come up

2651
01:50:04,910 --> 01:50:01,530
and she's got monthly videos where she

2652
01:50:06,950 --> 01:50:04,920
does syrian star language obviously and

2653
01:50:08,300 --> 01:50:06,960
people brought the tears buyer and these

2654
01:50:10,060 --> 01:50:08,310
people have been full grown and there's

2655
01:50:12,530 --> 01:50:10,070
some of these dudes are skeptical and

2656
01:50:14,270 --> 01:50:12,540
it's like like something's been

2657
01:50:18,500 --> 01:50:14,280
activated or there's a memory or they

2658
01:50:20,700 --> 01:50:18,510
know this language it's it's very weird

2659
01:50:22,650 --> 01:50:20,710
and a few what would say a what

2660
01:50:25,470 --> 01:50:22,660
words would equate to like a book of

2661
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:25,480
knowledge or pages of information

2662
01:50:32,700 --> 01:50:28,690
it's more of an energetic thought

2663
01:50:36,540 --> 01:50:32,710
transfer with it behind the the language

2664
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:36,550
but if you're typing so later even if

2665
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,530
you go to my website and scroll down to

2666
01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:40,480
the links I've got on the front page it

2667
01:50:44,490 --> 01:50:42,460
would be soul readings I think it is you

2668
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:44,500
click on that picture and it'll take you

2669
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:46,810
to a website and there's lots of video

2670
01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:48,489
she's even got a documentary out as well

2671
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:50,350
and she's been doing it for years so

2672
01:50:57,780 --> 01:50:52,570
yeah just look at those resources to

2673
01:50:59,459 --> 01:50:57,790
hear okay someone was saying they didn't

2674
01:51:01,229 --> 01:50:59,469
get a chance to write that down can you

2675
01:51:04,050 --> 01:51:01,239
just repeat real quickly where to look

2676
01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:04,060
that up again yes so rato is in I'm

2677
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:13,300
sorry s o L a T I saw later just put

2678
01:51:17,130 --> 01:51:15,730
psychic behind it or star language and I

2679
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:17,140
think she's the only person that will

2680
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:18,489
come out with the word spelt that way

2681
01:51:21,690 --> 01:51:20,530
from my understanding though so it

2682
01:51:25,890 --> 01:51:21,700
shouldn't be too hard to find from then

2683
01:51:28,290 --> 01:51:25,900
on yeah thank you for that so just

2684
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:28,300
moving along someone actually when we

2685
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:29,770
were talking about when you're talking

2686
01:51:36,510 --> 01:51:34,480
about the physical look of being someone

2687
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:36,520
was asking how many digits did you

2688
01:51:41,850 --> 01:51:38,880
notice how many digits on their hands I

2689
01:51:43,620 --> 01:51:41,860
saw apply to spray some of notice for it

2690
01:51:45,959 --> 01:51:43,630
just depends on the on the top of bang

2691
01:51:50,370 --> 01:51:45,969
then wonders a for I think the white

2692
01:51:52,590 --> 01:51:50,380
ones from I don't say these ones that

2693
01:51:55,100 --> 01:51:52,600
much so I saw him a lot when I was a kid

2694
01:51:57,209 --> 01:51:55,110
again I didn't know what they were I

2695
01:51:58,410 --> 01:51:57,219
didn't think they alien I didn't think

2696
01:51:59,670 --> 01:51:58,420
though I didn't know what the hell it

2697
01:52:01,200 --> 01:51:59,680
was I used to put the shade out of my

2698
01:52:03,540 --> 01:52:01,210
head they used actually one of them used

2699
01:52:05,370 --> 01:52:03,550
to appear is Kurt Cobain to me until one

2700
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:05,380
day started to vibrate between Kurt

2701
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:07,210
Cobain and me singing it was because I

2702
01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:09,610
was into Nirvana at such young age from

2703
01:52:13,260 --> 01:52:11,590
my by my brother that I think they

2704
01:52:16,979 --> 01:52:13,270
decided to show themselves like that

2705
01:52:23,220 --> 01:52:16,989
originally but most of them that I've

2706
01:52:25,770 --> 01:52:23,230
seen have had four digits okay now we're

2707
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:25,780
talking kind of all different types of

2708
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:27,370
different things here so I wanted to ask

2709
01:52:34,229 --> 01:52:30,000
you while we're bouncing around a bit

2710
01:52:35,209 --> 01:52:34,239
any crypto situation in Australia that

2711
01:52:40,830 --> 01:52:35,219
you're

2712
01:52:43,850 --> 01:52:40,840
yeah very there is one black of hanumana

2713
01:52:46,649 --> 01:52:43,860
who is a part in his film stuff with me

2714
01:52:49,050 --> 01:52:46,659
Steve Harrison we will make Harrison we

2715
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:49,060
call him as well or Styx

2716
01:52:53,790 --> 01:52:50,650
he was actually on Charles's property a

2717
01:52:55,530 --> 01:52:53,800
trade being bent over perfectly I think

2718
01:52:59,010 --> 01:52:55,540
once you'd walk through that area and

2719
01:53:03,750 --> 01:52:59,020
gone back but he's a we are Bigfoot and

2720
01:53:06,209 --> 01:53:03,760
big cats investigator in researcher I've

2721
01:53:08,910 --> 01:53:06,219
had some experiences myself with Bigfoot

2722
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,920
up here my partner has as well when

2723
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:10,960
we've been together and I actually had a

2724
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:13,330
reptilian experience where I was taken I

2725
01:53:16,649 --> 01:53:15,370
didn't know for about a year year and a

2726
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,659
half but I was taken somewhere

2727
01:53:19,919 --> 01:53:18,400
underground I don't know if it was

2728
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:19,929
Australia or not but though I was

2729
01:53:25,709 --> 01:53:21,850
revealed later though earth type

2730
01:53:27,450 --> 01:53:25,719
reptilians but there is lots going on

2731
01:53:29,970 --> 01:53:27,460
here we've got the the bunyip which is

2732
01:53:32,430 --> 01:53:29,980
some we'd four-legged screwed up looking

2733
01:53:34,979 --> 01:53:32,440
for there's some crazy stuff that the

2734
01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:34,989
people report over here and abundance

2735
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:37,600
we've got a big history but I think we

2736
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:39,040
called the Yowie even though I still

2737
01:53:42,510 --> 01:53:40,000
call a Bigfoot

2738
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:42,520
yeah he's basically another type of

2739
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:45,489
Bigfoot lots of reports to get up and

2740
01:53:51,330 --> 01:53:46,810
down the east coast of these type of

2741
01:53:53,250 --> 01:53:51,340
theme there is there is a long history

2742
01:53:55,649 --> 01:53:53,260
with the aboriginals here the Australian

2743
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:55,659
Aboriginals with they call them the

2744
01:54:01,320 --> 01:53:58,330
little hairy people or the other tall

2745
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:01,330
hairy people the mean mean lights which

2746
01:54:09,629 --> 01:54:07,680
yeah that's there are lots of other

2747
01:54:12,570 --> 01:54:09,639
things but the reports are mainly he

2748
01:54:14,340 --> 01:54:12,580
will be about that all big cats there's

2749
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:14,350
there's lots of stuff with big cats in

2750
01:54:17,970 --> 01:54:16,239
the area we've seen these things we've

2751
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:17,980
got Panthers or something now there are

2752
01:54:22,770 --> 01:54:20,050
rumors that when the Americans were here

2753
01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:22,780
during World War two that a few of these

2754
01:54:26,189 --> 01:54:24,520
cats got away that they'd brought with

2755
01:54:27,930 --> 01:54:26,199
him or I think they bought him for

2756
01:54:31,050 --> 01:54:27,940
tracking or something like that it was

2757
01:54:32,189 --> 01:54:31,060
told and some of them got away but you

2758
01:54:33,330 --> 01:54:32,199
know you wouldn't want to encounter one

2759
01:54:35,459 --> 01:54:33,340
of these things there's been some

2760
01:54:36,990 --> 01:54:35,469
evidence shown about of scratch marks on

2761
01:54:38,879 --> 01:54:37,000
cows where they're being killed and the

2762
01:54:42,570 --> 01:54:38,889
these claws and the things that you know

2763
01:54:45,300 --> 01:54:42,580
gigantic but you know some of it I think

2764
01:54:47,010 --> 01:54:45,310
is good a a paranormal that I think the

2765
01:54:48,620 --> 01:54:47,020
paranormal is really normal I think it's

2766
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:48,630
got a paranormal spin to it you know

2767
01:54:52,340 --> 01:54:51,090
the bigfoot-type thing but some of it

2768
01:54:54,740 --> 01:54:52,350
you know with the cats might be

2769
01:54:56,540 --> 01:54:54,750
explainable okay I didn't realize this

2770
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:56,550
we're right at the end of the show I'm

2771
01:55:01,580 --> 01:54:58,050
sorry I thought we had a couple minutes

2772
01:55:02,090 --> 01:55:01,590
left so so that's it thank you very much

2773
01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,100
Peter

2774
01:55:06,979 --> 01:55:04,080
now let's bow on thank you very much to

2775
01:55:08,959 --> 01:55:06,989
have Milla bye so that's it for this

2776
01:55:11,780 --> 01:55:08,969
show this evening I want to thank

2777
01:55:13,790 --> 01:55:11,790
everyone for helping out first of all I

2778
01:55:16,580 --> 01:55:13,800
want to thank Alejandro Rojas for

2779
01:55:18,110 --> 01:55:16,590
helping me with the news and I want to

2780
01:55:20,270 --> 01:55:18,120
thank you the listener for putting up

2781
01:55:24,050 --> 01:55:20,280
with how we had to shift things around

2782
01:55:26,780 --> 01:55:24,060
and have story Musgrave on first put the

2783
01:55:28,430 --> 01:55:26,790
news in in the middle it was a there was

2784
01:55:30,169 --> 01:55:28,440
a little bit of an undertaking and I

2785
01:55:32,930 --> 01:55:30,179
really thank you for your patience I

2786
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:32,940
want to thank our guests of course both

2787
01:55:37,700 --> 01:55:36,090
story Musgrave in Peter Slattery Peter

2788
01:55:41,810 --> 01:55:37,710
was gracious enough to fill in at the

2789
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:41,820
last minute much appreciated and for

2790
01:55:46,129 --> 01:55:43,050
other people that helped out with the

2791
01:55:47,689 --> 01:55:46,139
show Carrie Lloyd Whitehouse for our

2792
01:55:49,459 --> 01:55:47,699
music Peggy

2793
01:55:51,770 --> 01:55:49,469
shunning for helping us with our

2794
01:55:54,340 --> 01:55:51,780
Facebook page and remember to like us on

2795
01:55:56,750 --> 01:55:54,350
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2796
01:55:59,390 --> 01:55:56,760
Michael lo could be coming back in

2797
01:56:02,419 --> 01:55:59,400
giving us some blogs that'll be coming

2798
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:02,429
up within the next few weeks or so I'm

2799
01:56:06,620 --> 01:56:04,650
real excited to have him involved with

2800
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:06,630
the show again and that's all because of

2801
01:56:10,220 --> 01:56:08,400
your nice contributions that you helped

2802
01:56:13,550 --> 01:56:10,230
us out with I can reach out to people

2803
01:56:17,300 --> 01:56:13,560
like him and I appreciate that next week

2804
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:17,310
we are going to be live and that is may

2805
01:56:22,129 --> 01:56:20,130
6 next Wednesday it's going to be in

2806
01:56:25,399 --> 01:56:22,139
Portland Maine I'm trying to gather up

2807
01:56:28,820 --> 01:56:25,409
some UFO people in a state of Maine and

2808
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:28,830
we'll see how that goes you can check us

2809
01:56:34,189 --> 01:56:31,290
out live right here on the dark matter

2810
01:56:36,410 --> 01:56:34,199
radio network and every Wednesday at 8

2811
01:56:37,700 --> 01:56:36,420
p.m. to 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time

2812
01:56:39,950 --> 01:56:37,710
and if you've been paying attention

2813
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:39,960
you'll see that art Bell is coming up

2814
01:56:44,090 --> 01:56:42,210
I think it's late July he'll be back on

2815
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:44,100
this very Network right here we're

2816
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:47,010
really excited about it to have him back

2817
01:56:51,500 --> 01:56:48,570
on the air again it'll be a real

2818
01:56:53,899 --> 01:56:51,510
pleasure he's only looking for help from

2819
01:56:56,479 --> 01:56:53,909
listeners out there at five dollars per

2820
01:56:59,209 --> 01:56:56,489
month now he has bandwidth he has new

2821
01:57:02,480 --> 01:56:59,219
equipment to be taken care of he also

2822
01:57:04,970 --> 01:57:02,490
has music that he has to pay for

2823
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:04,980
which is very expensive so I'm sure this

2824
01:57:09,770 --> 01:57:07,440
station is gonna get a lot of listens

2825
01:57:12,410 --> 01:57:09,780
when he comes back and again it'll be

2826
01:57:15,230 --> 01:57:12,420
great to have him back so if you need to

2827
01:57:17,870 --> 01:57:15,240
email me for any reason and if it's a

2828
01:57:19,970 --> 01:57:17,880
support related question or whatever no

2829
01:57:24,050 --> 01:57:19,980
problem at all just email me at Martin

2830
01:57:25,700 --> 01:57:24,060
at podcast UFO comm and thanks for

2831
01:57:27,770 --> 01:57:25,710
listening again thanks for your patience